Michael Jackson

There were quite a few.

I remember his trial, with that young kid (Jordie???), when Jackson was found not guilty. The foreman of the jury was interviewed outside the court, and said " there is no doubt that Jackson abused him, we just couldn't prove it".
I always found it strange, that the Jackson estate never "went to town" on this quote.
 
I was and still am a huge fan of his work but even I can't say he definitely did nothing. I think he didn't and that's my view on it.

There was a 'hidden' room in Neverland full of children's toys and gifts off fans that had sensors to inform the people inside if anyone was approaching. It looked dodgy until you realise it's actually a panic room and nothing more.

It's a bit like 9/11. One minute I'm laughing at the conspiracy theorists, the next I have to have a think about it.

At the end of the day, we'll never know.
 
lefty goldblatt said:
There were quite a few.

I remember his trial, with that young kid (Jordie???), when Jackson was found not guilty. The foreman of the jury was interviewed outside the court, and said " there is no doubt that Jackson abused him, we just couldn't prove it".
I always found it strange, that the Jackson estate never "went to town" on this quote.
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He ended up writing a book about it $$$

Jordy Chandler was the first case that didn't go to trial and it was a huge set up. There's phone calls where his father was bragging about making money and finishing Jackson's career. He killed himself a few months after Jackson's death.
 
Did some great tunes to which you can’t really deny but I found that documentary very creepy indeed. Always thought that something wasn’t quite right in the way that he was with kids but I guess we will never know
 
Sharing your bed with children, that are not yours, is creepy to say the least, and I believe, it was only little boys
who he had in there. To pay an accuser off with $25 million is not the action of an innocent accused man, nobody, no matter
how rich, would do it, as the guilt is then naturally assumed.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Sharing your bed with children, that are not yours, is creepy to say the least, and I believe, it was only little boys
who he had in there. To pay an accuser off with $25 million is not the action of an innocent accused man, nobody, no matter
how rich, would do it, as the guilt is then naturally assumed.
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It was girls too but yes it is strange.

Elizabeth Taylor and Jackson's mother begged him not to pay off the Chandler family but his advisors/manager/record company forced him to. From all angles, it's about money.... if it went to court and he was found guilty (even if innocent) then the money machine that he was would have ended for Sony.

May I suggest this book...

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His hardcore fans won't ever entertain he may have been a nonce and those already convinced he is just have their belief in that confirmed
He certainly had some weird behaviour when it came to children, and the film has testermonies from victims and voicemeils apparently.

Personally lean towards he was a wrong un, but he's dead, bar some closure from those involved this documentry won't change many opinions.
 
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Ancient Citizen said:
Sharing your bed with children, that are not yours, is creepy to say the least, and I believe, it was only little boys
who he had in there. To pay an accuser off with $25 million is not the action of an innocent accused man, nobody, no matter
how rich, would do it, as the guilt is then naturally assumed.
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Whilst I understand how the optics look, I can't agree or disagree on the Jackson position.

What I can do is understand some of his upbringing and have some sympathy.

Try being 5 and singing and fronting a band, being isolated from other children outside of the family for rehearsal and country tours.

He could have whatever he wanted as a young man. He had many enablers.

This was his whole life; abnormal.

I'm only hypothesising, but when adults have had a chunk of their youth taken from them, they revisit it in some way.

Maybe hanging out with kids that didn't want anything from him was that. Maybe he went too far, maybe he did nothing at all?

Macaulay Culkin could offer up some 'proof' being a regular visitor to MJ and, to my knowledge, never has.

So, I would lean towards that than anything.
 
SWP's back said:
So how many have accused him now? 5 or 6 or am I way out and it’s more?
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You opened this thread saying "So what are we saying now with this new documentary movie?"without offering your opinion.... And now you seem like you are judging posters for their opinion. You can make that 7 accusers with me because i'm convinced he was a kiddy fiddler.

And please mate, don't come back sniping at posters offering a different opinion of your own like you do. You are an intelligent guy but have form for belittling posters(Hodge was one) with your often bigoted opinion.

Sorry, I'm just being honest. Perhaps I should grow the fuck up eh; )
 
BlueMoonRisin' said:
You opened this thread saying "So what are we saying now with this new documentary movie?"without offering your opinion.... And now you seem like you are judging posters for their opinion. You can make that 7 accusers with me because i'm convinced he was a kiddy fiddler.

And please mate, don't come back sniping at posters offering a different opinion of your own like you do. You are an intelligent guy but have form for belittling posters(Hodge was one) with your often bigoted opinion.

Sorry, I'm just being honest. Perhaps I should grow the fuck up eh; )
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I think he meant potential victims accusing him, not people on a footy forum!!!!
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