Michael Peterson aka Charles Bronson

I know they stated on the documentary that violence in men aged 70+ drops to almost zero but there must be outlier’s in that statistic.
He was on about living in Devon near his recently discovered son.
Even if he was released he would need a name change and cut off his tache. There will be plenty hard boys wanting to make a name for themselves.

He'd have absolutely nothing to be worried about in Devon. Maybe a drunk teenager at the wheel or a particularly grumpy badger. If anything I'd expect he'd be welcomed with open arms and everyone would want to get him a drink and grab a selfie.
 
I was previously under the impression that life sentence prisoners first of all had to get their Cat. D and then prove themselves under open/ semi open conditions, before they could be considered for parole.

This guy seems to be going straight from a Cat. A jail to potential release. That really is a recipe for disaster. Whether it’s this fella or anybody else.
 
After 48 years inside he has no idea how to have a civilised lifestyle outside and behaving as he has he should not be let loose on society to pick up the pieces. The old saying once a **** always a **** rings true in this case
The fact that he was inside in the first place suggests that he has never had any idea how to have a civilised lifestyle outside.
 
I was previously under the impression that life sentence prisoners first of all had to get their Cat. D and then prove themselves under open/ semi open conditions, before they could be considered for parole.

This guy seems to be going straight from a Cat. A jail to potential release. That really is a recipe for disaster. Whether it’s this fella or anybody else.

Discretionary life sentence though not mandatory, and minimum term was three years.
 
Discretionary life sentence though not mandatory, and minimum term was three years.

Fair enough, I can see the distinction now. But even so, to be considering just straight releasing a person who’s spent decades in Cat. A conditions is just madness.

Even in the case of a discretionary life sentence, there’s no automatic release. It still needs a parole board’s decision to release. Surely it must be ( or should be ) in their powers to recommend a spell at a Cat D. to test the waters before considering a full release?
 
The fact that he was inside in the first place suggests that he has never had any idea how to have a civilised lifestyle outside.

The repeated and escalating offences whilst inside are more indicative than the first, I would have thought.
 
As the hearing opened, Bronson was given 15 minutes to give an opening statement - but replied: "I could fill 15 hours."

He then proceeded to tell the panel: "First of all, it’s no secret I have had more porridge than Goldilocks and the Three Bears, and I’m sick of it. I’ve had enough of it, I want to go home," also dismissing the dossier about him that was handed to the panel as "crap, absolute rubbish".

Shortly after the hearing began, Bronson sipped on a carton of orange juice, then standing up to ask for a tissue and telling the panel: "I haven’t pissed myself".

The inmate proceeded to mutter "f****** hell" when the panel was told submissions on behalf of justice secretary Dominic Raab had been delayed and said: “we will be here all f****** day, won’t we?” amid pauses in proceedings.
The inmate also said he didn't feel bad about the number of prison protests he staged, stating: “I enjoyed every f****** one of them.” Nine of the protests involved barricading himself onto prison rooftops, causing an estimated £5 million of damage.

“Why would I be ashamed? I’m fighting the penal system that has done humiliating things to me for decades,” he said. "If I was a dog I’d have had the RSPCA on my side.”
Self preservation n'all that...
 
Reading some of the stuff posted here from the hearing I'd say he has zero chance of getting out. Saying he enjoyed all the protests and violent altercations with guards and was proud of them isn't what the parole board want to hear. He's so crazy in spite of all the advice he must have been given he still can't play the game to get out.
 
Is that the same for someone caught selling weed or wrongly accused rape?

An ambiguous thought process for being inside, non...?
I probably should have said that coupled with his 48 years of behaviour inside then a conclusion as to his ability to conduct himself outside before incarceration may be drawn.

It was not a blanket condemnation of anyone who has been convicted, but you knew that my good friend. :-)

Not seen you posting much in the threads I have been lurking on. You good?
 
I probably should have said that coupled with his 48 years of behaviour inside then a conclusion as to his ability to conduct himself outside before incarceration may be drawn.

It was not a blanket condemnation of anyone who has been convicted, but you knew that my good friend. :-)

Not seen you posting much in the threads I have been lurking on. You good?

I did know that, pal. Just wanted you to course correct as someone less friendly may have been unkind to you!

I'm okay. Think many people find me 'bad' cos I don't sheep think, but that's okay. Pretty sure you know I'm okay with the usual attacks from the usual mobs! LOL!

How are you faring these days, my good sir?
 
This sort of thing is where we really fail as a nation.

I read somewhere our reoffending rates are over 70%. Madness. There's no attempt to rehabilitate, all we do is punish. Which is revenge really, and it's proven it doesn't work.

We let people out of prison with nothing and say off you go, be good. Most of them don't know how to be good...

I think it's Sweden or Denmark where everyone in prison goes through a rehab process and is taught things inside, then when released there's a proper structure. Their reoffending rates are a quarter of ours.

Bronson has served his time. With correct release after care he could get back on his feet. But it's easier to just sack him off as a person and leave him inside.

We let murderers out sooner....
 
Apparently he's suffering from PTSD which is hardly surprising given his many years of incarceration and fighting the system. The problem is how do you manage somebody like him in society? He might be 70 but he's a very fit powerful 70. The majority of his life has been fighting against anyone or anything he considers is controlling him or telling him what to do. I'd hope the man could come out and enjoy his final years in peace but I fear the first time he's challenged or told he can't do something he'll explode.
 
This sort of thing is where we really fail as a nation.

I read somewhere our reoffending rates are over 70%. Madness. There's no attempt to rehabilitate, all we do is punish. Which is revenge really, and it's proven it doesn't work.

We let people out of prison with nothing and say off you go, be good. Most of them don't know how to be good...

I think it's Sweden or Denmark where everyone in prison goes through a rehab process and is taught things inside, then when released there's a proper structure. Their reoffending rates are a quarter of ours.

Bronson has served his time. With correct release after care he could get back on his feet. But it's easier to just sack him off as a person and leave him inside.

We let murderers out sooner....
This is why I’m struggling to see why he should remain locked up for the rest of his days. Sure, he’s brought a lot of it on himself with numerous serious assaults inside adding so many years to his sentence, but I feel he deserves a chance of a life outside of prison. Watching that programme the other week, I thought Kerry Daynes spoke well about the situation.
 

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