Michaela McAreavey

AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Coming from the "opposite side of the fence", i dont know a huge lot about GAA...except through friends and work colleagues, and the fact my daughter now plays (and camogie). But the most important thing you feel is the huge sense of community and team spirit throughout the game.

Some people, families and communities entire lives revolve around their GAA Club and the associated social activities...even more so in the country. Im pretty jealous that i didnt get to be as involved in something like that when i grew up.

The reaction to her death really isnt surprising


A GAA club is like a big extended family. If you asked any player if they would rather success with the county or club, I think almost all would favour club success.

The GAA as a community, aside from the faults of the association, will always be supportive of their own. Mickey Harte is a great man, his family's loss puts a lot of things into perspective.

The composure he has shown in the last couple of weeks is a huge credit to the man himself, his community and most importantly, his family.
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Coming from the "opposite side of the fence", i dont know a huge lot about GAA...except through friends and work colleagues, and the fact my daughter now plays (and camogie). But the most important thing you feel is the huge sense of community and team spirit throughout the game.

Some people, families and communities entire lives revolve around their GAA Club and the associated social activities...even more so in the country. Im pretty jealous that i didnt get to be as involved in something like that when i grew up.

The reaction to her death really isnt surprising


A GAA club is like a big extended family. If you asked any player if they would rather success with the county or club, I think almost all would favour club success.

The GAA as a community, aside from the faults of the association, will always be supportive of their own. Mickey Harte is a great man, his family's loss puts a lot of things into perspective.

The composure he has shown in the last couple of weeks is a huge credit to the man himself, his community and most importantly, his family.

All the local GAA clubs are always looking for people to give them a hand all the time be it helping the kids train on the odd night. Alexwilliams if you were willing to give them a dig out you are never too old to get involved with the clubs.
 
brooklandsblue2.0 said:
Is Gaelic football not profesional? Do they players recieve any money? Seems crazy if thats the case when you consider the crowds/television/popularity of the game.

No. Some get sponsorships, but it's not on a large scale. (Same goes for hurling.)

The GAA is an amateur organisation, but the top players, the intercounty players put in as much work, if not more, than professional footballers. They do everything the English boys do, but just along with a job (if they're lucky in this day and age) and money worries and everything else that comes with living in recession Ireland.

An incredible amount of work goes in to being a top player, but they get nothing back but a bare minimum of expenses.

And everyone, not just top players on the intercounty scene, but players and members of clubs, play equally important roles in the GAA. Without which it just wouldn't function the way it does.

It's the biggest sport in Ireland and dominates the summer, competition or no competition. For me, as much as I enjoy football, there's nothing like the championship come summer.

But right now, unfortunately summer seems a very long way away.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Coming from the "opposite side of the fence", i dont know a huge lot about GAA...except through friends and work colleagues, and the fact my daughter now plays (and camogie). But the most important thing you feel is the huge sense of community and team spirit throughout the game.

Some people, families and communities entire lives revolve around their GAA Club and the associated social activities...even more so in the country. Im pretty jealous that i didnt get to be as involved in something like that when i grew up.

The reaction to her death really isnt surprising

When I look back to when I was a child, 90% of my best memories were out with everyone else out on the field, pucking around untill we were dragged in home.
Some things never change. Though there wasn't as much drink involved then than there is now. Haha.

But it's never too late. Helps always needed and wanted.
 
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The Tyrone team and Mickey Harte returned yesterday, they won the game but I can't think of game where winning was met with such lack of celebration.
Heart wrenching scenes at the start of the game, but it was good none the less to see the legend of a man back. God knows it couldn't have been easy for him.
 
Rahart said:
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/football-takes-a-back-seat-as-tearful-mickey-returns-to-fray-2508087.html

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0124/1224288163878.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/spo ... 63878.html</a>

The Tyrone team and Mickey Harte returned yesterday, they won the game but I can't think of game where winning was met with such lack of celebration.
Heart wrenching scenes at the start of the game, but it was good none the less to see the legend of a man back. God knows it couldn't have been easy for him.

To be honest I wouldnt put it by Tyrone to win the All Ireland this year in memory of Michaela and if they do it there will be some scenes and emotions running high if they do win it.
 
leighton said:
Rahart said:
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/football-takes-a-back-seat-as-tearful-mickey-returns-to-fray-2508087.html

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2011/0124/1224288163878.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/spo ... 63878.html</a>

The Tyrone team and Mickey Harte returned yesterday, they won the game but I can't think of game where winning was met with such lack of celebration.
Heart wrenching scenes at the start of the game, but it was good none the less to see the legend of a man back. God knows it couldn't have been easy for him.

To be honest I wouldnt put it by Tyrone to win the All Ireland this year in memory of Michaela and if they do it there will be some scenes and emotions running high if they do win it.

Any other team you'd worry that they'd struggle to pick themselves up. But Tyrone are a different matter all together.

They needed a year after Cormac died, different circumstances obviously, but the scene after the final whistle was just one massive outpour of emotion.

As players they grew and unfortunately for this team grief and tragedy hasn't been very far away, and has united them and that strength could push them on and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them win.

That said..hopefully Cork will make a good push as well. But I don't think anyone would deny or begrudge Tyrone the title.
 
I know the paper has just latched onto the fact this wee girl "works" for a local paper, thus making scandalous news about a rival publication, but it makes you cringe...

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/harte-tragedy-newspaper-photographers-sick-facebook-messages-about-honeymoon-murder-bride-michaela-15062387.html

Harte tragedy: Newspaper photographer's sick Facebook messages about honeymoon murder bride Michaela
By Aaron Tinney
Monday, 24 January 2011

A newspaper photographer who posted vile messages on Facebook about tragic Michaela McAreavey is being investigated by the paper’s bosses.

Susanne Morrison — who takes pictures for the County Down Outlook weekly paper — ranted that she was “sick of hearing” about Michaela's murder because she could not see “what makes her so special”.

Susanne also made other sickening remarks which we are not repeating.

Bizarrely, she added that Michaela’s honeymoon murder was a case of “karma” and that “what goes around comes around”.

Rathfriland girl Susanne, a Rangers and Linfield fan who has 613 Facebook ‘friends’, posted on her wall: “Susanne Morrison is sick hearing about Makeala [sic] Hartes death!

“Thousands of people die terrible deaths every day through diseases and whatever so what makes her so special.

“Soldiers don’t get as much coverage as she has and they are risking their lives to protect us! Its about time this country got its priorities right!!!”

Within minutes five people had posted comments.

One gave her the sensible advice: “If you don't want to hear about it, don't watch it. And stop complaining about it.”

Another wrote: “At least spell her name right.”

But Susanne sneered: “o well haha god nos wat way she spells it”.

And unmoved by the suggestion that she should shut up, Susanne, 19, added further insult, saying: “What is it they say about what goes around comes around or karma or what ever u wanna call it! or as my mum would say your sins will always find u out hehe.”

The Co Down Outlook, where Susanne works part-time, circulates in the area where Michaela’s devastated widower John McAreavey plays football for the Down county side and where John and Michaela had bought a new home in Lawrencetown.

Co Down Outlook editor Joanne Ross issued a statement to Sunday Life last week saying that they were horrified by the Facebook comments and the paper was investigating.

Joanne Ross said: “We are totally appalled by the comments made on Facebook.

“The views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author and are not shared or endorsed by the company.

“The County Down Outlook therefore categorically disassociates itself with the comments made and we have acted immediately to investigate this urgent matter, which is currently ongoing.”

The Co Down Outlook is part of the Alpha newspaper group — owned by multi-millionaire former Unionist MP, John Taylor, now Lord Kilclooney, and his family.

On her Facebook site Susanne Morrison describes one of her activities as “being Protestant”.

She also listed among her jokey interests — “Waking up on July 12th and realising you are God’s chosen race” and “Prods don’t do mass, but if they did, it would probably be the best mass in the world. It’s Northern Ireland not Ireland. I’m proud to be British!”

Sunday Life tried to contact Susanne last week but she refused to return our calls.

On Friday, her solicitors sent us a fax saying Susanne Morrison had no comment to make in relation to any proposed story.

The solicitors said that if we published information “in respect of which our client had a ‘reasonable expectation of privacy’,” then their client would be entitled to bring an action for misuse of “private information”.

Ms Morrison’s comments — the subject of the Outlook newspaper’s investigation — had already been widely circulated by herself on the Internet and she had provoked comments from some of her hundreds of Facebook ‘friends’.

Minutes after she posted the comments one pal agreed: “your f****n right suzy.”

Another said: “U tell em lol.”

And even when one advised her to ignore the media coverage of Michaela McAreavey’s murder if she didn’t like it, Susanne posted back defiantly: “U can’t miss it its everywhere on every channel u flick on to! Don’t get me wrong its terrible and you wouldn’t wish it on anybody but lots of people die and it never makes the news. Everyone should be treated the same!”

All the offensive material concerning Michaela’s murder was later removed.

Former Rathfriland High School pupil Susanne, who has an HND qualification in photography from the Southern Regional College, says on her Facebook that her favourite football teams include Linfield and Rangers – and that she likes “cuddling, hugging, chocolate chip cookies, smiling and photography”.

Susanne has also written on her homepage: “2011 is gonna be a good year — I have so much planned!!”

On her Flickr page she describes herself as a newspaper photographer while on another site she said: “I have a real passion for photography. Whatever the occasion you are guaranteed a unique style of photography that captures the mood, laughter and all the fun.”

Nice to see good auld bigotry alive and well in the youth of today ;-)
 
What a piece of shit she is for writing that shit on facebook. No matter who it was it would of got the same media coverage. A woman on her honeymoon gets murder so its bound to get media attention. Fucking kids of today has no respect.
 
Lost Pilot said:
Silly wee girl, she'll grow up one day and realise what a dick she's been.
The thing is, she most likely won't.

On the murder issue, someone said 2 minutes earlier or 2 minutes later and she'd still be alive, well that's true, however this clearly wasn't the first time her murderers had stolen from guests, it was only a matter of time before they got the timing wrong and someone caught them. If it hadn't been this woman then someone else would have walked in on them and suffered a similar fate.
 
I've been trying to come up with some sort of response to the childish, disrespectful Susanne Morrison, but I think is beautifully written piece says it all and more.

Brenda Power: Michaela was the All-Ireland girl we all could love

Of the three most powerful institutions in this state’s history — the church, Fianna Fail and GAA — only one now still commands respect


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Faith, family, loyalty: as Michaela McAreavey was being carried to the chapel last Monday, she shared the headlines with the Fianna Fail heave. There was a time when the GAA, Fianna Fail and the Catholic church formed the three cornerstones of any rural Irish community. But however strong their lingering fidelity to the faith of their fathers, it’s unlikely that many of the thousands of mourners at Michaela’s funeral gave a thought to the death throes of Dev’s party, and even less likely that they cared.

Faith, family and loyalty: these were the three cornerstones of Michaela’s evidently luminous and delightful existence, and the words were inscribed on the missalette for her funeral mass on Monday, underneath a picture of the newlywed and her husband on their recent wedding day.

There are many reasons why her murder in a honeymoon hotel suite didn’t just shock the country, but genuinely depressed and saddened people who had never met her. There was the sheer misfortune of the timing. A minute either way and she’d have missed the men who, police believe, went to her room to rifle her purse.

If the couple had spent a little longer over lunch, if the kitchen had been a little slower serving their meal, if the tea that required the biscuits had come just a moment later, the thieves would have been gone. A day or two afterwards, perhaps, she’d have counted the rupees in her purse, thought there should have been more, and put the shortfall down to an error with unfamiliar currency.

Judging by the profile of the suspects arrested, it seems the police reckon that the practice of sneaking into guests’ bedrooms with the aid of an illicit key, and taking a small sum from a purse or pocket, may have been a common one. The theft of a purse would be noticed and reported, and any staff member involved would lose his coveted job, but pinching a few notes from a stuffed purse and leaving the scene undisturbed was a sustainable strategy.

If thieves entered the room and quickly grabbed the purse, though, they would have left by the time Michaela arrived. And she’d have thought that the loss of her spending money and jewellery was the worst thing that could have happened on her honeymoon. Out of such a near miss with normality a tragedy was made.

The proximity of one of life’s happiest events, marriage, to its most distressing seemed almost deliberately cruel. The family’s rare closeness, prominence and palpable decency and her dad’s extraordinary eloquent expression of his heartache conspired to make Michaela McAreavey’s murder a nationally unifying sadness.

But there was another reason why the whole country shared in genuine grief at the death of somebody else’s child, sister and wife, and it’s not a million miles from the unedifying antics unfolding elsewhere in the week of her funeral. Of the three most powerful institutions in this state’s history — the church, Fianna Fail and GAA — only one still commands respect, and the Michaela McAreavey most of us only got to know after she died embodied everything about it that deserves that respect.

She represented everything about us that the convulsions of the past few years have failed to quench. She personified everything we feared we’d lost, and the irony was that we discovered it only after she was gone. Of all the pillars of Irish society, the GAA is the only one that remains unimpaired, and the Michaela McAreaveys of the country are its backbone.

Faith, family, loyalty. On All-Ireland Sunday mornings, the priests in my Kilkenny parish still pray for victory for the county team, and even club matches get a mention. The GAA is probably the only sporting organisation in the world which expects God to take sides. The players, from primary school to inter-county standard, give their time and talents freely for nothing more than the joy of the sport, the glory of the parish, the club and county.

There was a time when political loyalty was a shared household conviction — your parents’ voting choices determined yours — but family allegiances are now splintered by cynicism and despair. But there’s rarely much dissent about the GAA team a family supports, and family involvement is essential to the association’s countrywide network. Fathers and older brothers coach the youngsters’ teams, mothers and sisters wash jerseys.

Michaela McAreavey was a Celtic tiger cub, one of those relatively well-heeled teenagers who came of age just as the country began to grow prosperous. These are the twentysomethings, we’ve been told, who lack the resources to deal with the downturn, who’ve known nothing but instant gratification and enhanced expectations, whose moral compasses have been knocked out of kilter by affluence and the decline in traditional values.

The most persistent carp about the Rose of Tralee festival is that it purports to showcase the kind of Irish girl who doesn’t exist any more: the wholesome, God-fearing, GAA-loving, devoted daughter and sister who is so modest and demure she needs a chaperone for a week away from home.

And yet, it turns out she exists after all. Michaela McAreavey, a former Ulster Rose, was a bright, popular, stylish and beautiful girl who lived a fulfilled and loving life according to old-fashioned values. She didn’t smoke or drink or live with her boyfriend before they married. She loved her brothers, confided in her mum, adored her dad. She was madly, passionately engaged in the local GAA. A page from her diary as a 12-year-old, published in her father’s recent memoir, spelled out in childish script her ambitions for the county team that year. And she had a deep faith.

She chose a career that allowed her to share both her beliefs and her love of Irish culture with the next generation. She married the kind of fellow any parents would be thrilled to see their daughter bring home, and she rounded off a perfect wedding with a trip to a paradise island. But for all the appeal of the exotic, she was content with the simplest pleasures: a half-finished packet of Rich Tea biscuits, still wrapped in the cling film that kept them fresh in a faraway hotel room, was carried to the altar at her funeral mass.

A diverting little spat has broken out between RTE and TV3 over Mad Men. RTE has secured the rights to broadcast the series, but is broadcasting it in a midnight slot, far too late for most viewers. TV3 complains that it would have run Mad Men much earlier if it had bought the series, and adds that this is another example of RTE using its clout — and the licence-fee revenue — to deny a commercial rival a popular show for which the national broadcaster seems not to have enough room in its schedule. TV3’s claims might cut more ice, though, if it had actually bid for the series. RTE says that it was the only broadcaster to show an interest when it was for sale.

Speaking of Mad Men, TV3 bosses do have a point when they grumble that RTE is muscling in on Vincent Browne’s territory by screening a late-night political discussion against his Tonight programme. So much for offering viewers a choice. Taking Browne on may prove unwise, however, because like Mad Men, he’s got something of a late-night cult following himself.

brenda.power@sunday-times.ie
 
Not sure if it made the news in England. Last weekend the orange order held parades here for the centenary celebrations of Northern Ireland
A crowd in a packed orange hall afterwards were filmed drinking cans of beer and chanting a vile song about the death of Michaela.
Many sang, laughed and clapped along. No one intervened or told them to stop.
I’m sure you could find the video online if you wish, you’ll need subtitles to work out the sick sick lyrics they composed about the murder of an innocent woman 11 years ago

makes you wonder how long this songs been on the go, and what other dead Catholics they have songs about.
 
Not sure if it made the news in England. Last weekend the orange order held parades here for the centenary celebrations of Northern Ireland
A crowd in a packed orange hall afterwards were filmed drinking cans of beer and chanting a vile song about the death of Michaela.
Many sang, laughed and clapped along. No one intervened or told them to stop.
I’m sure you could find the video online if you wish, you’ll need subtitles to work out the sick sick lyrics they composed about the murder of an innocent woman 11 years ago

makes you wonder how long this songs been on the go, and what other dead Catholics they have songs about.
I have just read this thread for the first time and didn’t know any of this or remember any news coverage. What a terrible thing to happen, and what a foul, shameful, hateful thing sectarianism is. I am English and not a catholic, I suppose I could be described as a none attending C of E , but all of those things are just “accidents of birth”. I am so honestly saddened not just by the events, but by people anywhere taking pleasure from them. RIP Michaela .
 
Not sure if it made the news in England. Last weekend the orange order held parades here for the centenary celebrations of Northern Ireland
A crowd in a packed orange hall afterwards were filmed drinking cans of beer and chanting a vile song about the death of Michaela.
Many sang, laughed and clapped along. No one intervened or told them to stop.
I’m sure you could find the video online if you wish, you’ll need subtitles to work out the sick sick lyrics they composed about the murder of an innocent woman 11 years ago

makes you wonder how long this songs been on the go, and what other dead Catholics they have songs about.

Religion and politics have much to answer for.Both topics attract and breed the worst type of ****.
 
I'm a protestant from Northern Ireland now living in London and like all right minded people called this out over the weekend. It is truly shocking. One of the saddest things is the whataboutery where people have been posting videos done by nationalists/republicans and saying but look at this. I have also called them out as it doesn't make it right and in no society any of that should be happening
 
Not sure if it made the news in England. Last weekend the orange order held parades here for the centenary celebrations of Northern Ireland
A crowd in a packed orange hall afterwards were filmed drinking cans of beer and chanting a vile song about the death of Michaela.
Many sang, laughed and clapped along. No one intervened or told them to stop.
I’m sure you could find the video online if you wish, you’ll need subtitles to work out the sick sick lyrics they composed about the murder of an innocent woman 11 years ago

makes you wonder how long this songs been on the go, and what other dead Catholics they have songs about.
Yup, it was on the BBC website last week, also it was the first I'd heard about the whole thing it to be fair. Tragic story with no one punished for it.
 

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