The thing is they (Israel) do have every right to defend themselves and have the military capacity to do so. Unfortunately hamas and Hezbollah are entwined within the (innocent) civilian population so to attack the terrorists without what we see as unacceptable collateral is nigh on impossible. We faced a similar problem with al Qaeda and IS in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Ultimately you can't expect a load of beardy islamist terrorists to obligingly line up to be shot by a superior military force. They are going to adopt insurgent/guerilla tactics.
Perfectly summed up I think. Israel would 100% prefer to meet Hamas and Hezbollah on a battlefield where they could then just kill 'legitimate' targets. Hamas and Hezbollah much prefer the situation where they use their own people as human shields. The problem then becomes 'How can Israel defend itself and protect it's own innocents effectively without killing other innocents?"
Perfectly summed up I think. Israel would 100% prefer to meet Hamas and Hezbollah on a battlefield where they could then just kill 'legitimate' targets. Hamas and Hezbollah much prefer the situation where they use their own people as human shields. The problem then becomes 'How can Israel defend itself and protect it's own innocents effectively without killing other innocents?"
Like that's going to happen!Just listening to the Iranian Supreme Leader who seems to be calling for a ‘Jihad’, addressing this to all Muslim nations.
Obviously aimed at Israel but then went to a wider audience, such as the US.Against who? Israel? America? Britain? France? The whole of the West?
We seem to be on the brink and when people are forced into a corner, they will have no option but to fight back.Like that's going to happen!
Although Iran does have the upper hand, the missile attack might not have done a lot of damage (although we will never know) but it proved that they can do it and have enough fire power to get through any defence
Lots of talking heads on the news from various US Right Wing think tanks telling the Israelis to go after Iran's nuclear facilities, which would just guarantee a massive strike against Israel's nuclear facility at Dimona
So lets go for their main oil export terminal in the gulf, besides the fact that a lot of their oil goes to China this would just invite the Iranians to destroy Israel's two oil refineries at Haifa and Ashdod, and you can't wage a war with no fuel!
So a few strikes at probably empty army bases and redundant silos is what they are left with, I mean all of this assumes they would not be as daft to do any of the above but I would not put my money on it
We seem to be on the brink and when people are forced into a corner, they will have no option but to fight back.
Would Iran throw a proper barrage into Israel, enough to overwhelm their defensive systems, I don’t know, but if the situation in Gaza and Lebanon continues, they may have no choice.
Calm heads are needed, I don’t think we have them.
that's the dramatic reading of the situation however I believe all the options have been laid out by the Americans and I doubt very much they would want to get involved in attacking Iran they have not got a good record in nation building and also Iran is a huge country people tend to forget thisWe seem to be on the brink and when people are forced into a corner, they will have no option but to fight back.
Would Iran throw a proper barrage into Israel, enough to overwhelm their defensive systems, I don’t know, but if the situation in Gaza and Lebanon continues, they may have no choice.
Calm heads are needed, I don’t think we have them.
You do have a right to defend yourself for sure, but killing over 45thousand people is a completely disproportionate response. 2million people in Gaza and only a small proportion are terrorists.Civilians in Gaza ?
Kids who learn from age 4
Hate, kill ,what education what generation what a chance to them for normal ?
Hamas caver is that civilian in conical way
The world believes that picture
- we have the right to defend our country, one bomb in London not 181 like yesterday
And the world will justify any attack on civilians wherever they are
Targeted but not targeted. You can't have it both ways. The numbers killed tell the truth. Hamas aren't destroyed yet still the IDF attack and the civilian dead increases way beyond the total number of Hamas terrorists.On this point only, and I'm sure you know, the reason for that is primarily based on their own hatred of Iran, and that is all down to the different sects of the muslim faith (sunny/shiite).
I'd disagree to a point, it is targetted or intel based, the problem in Gaza, is that hamas are completely embedded in (and often underneath) the innocent civilians.
Israel wants to wipe hamas out (understandably), so (it will say) it's unavoidable, and they have constantly warned the civilians to move when about to go into areas, the problem is theirs not really anywhere to go.
The big difference in Lebabon, is that hezbollah don't hide their infrastructure in/underneath the civilian population, so it's far easier to "target" it. Yes their leaders live/lived amongst the civilians (as in Gaza), and there will still be some collateral casualties, but far less than in (the much smaller) Gaza, and the civilians can get much further away from the targets.