Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

Iraq was an illegal war. You cannot wipe out hundred of thousands of innocent lives in the name of fighting a terrorist group and then claim some kind of victory. That makes America and their allies the terrorists. It may have been successful in rendering a terrorist group ineffective but the path they took to achieve that goal included the death of over 1 million people renders that everything they say they achieved an abject failure.
I suppose they could simply have just let ISIL reign supreme.
I was saying it was America committing the sick and repulsive war crimes in Iraq and all the American and European decision makers who had a hand in that atrocious illegal way should be dragged in front of the Hague.
When faced with impossible options you will choose one.
 
The yanks have sent them military aid in the last month as a show of support , not traded

its a bit debatable if they have or have not sent military aid. there were some artilary shells the media reported as aid but were the US replacing US stock stored in Israel that the US had sent to Ukraine.

There is very little Israel needs militarily support wise.

Note: in relation to this latest war.
 
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The yanks have sent them military aid in the last month as a show of support , not traded
They’ve sent them over the equivalent of 300 billion in “aid” since 1948. That’s enough to more than eradicate their own homeless/poverty problems, but the war mongering bastards are more interested in protecting and expanding their evil empire.
 
They’ve sent them over the equivalent of 300 billion in “aid” since 1948. That’s enough to more than eradicate their own homeless/poverty problems, but the war mongering bastards are more interested in protecting and expanding their evil empire.
The aid they've sent to the Palestinians could have also contributed to solving their own homeless problems as well to be fair.
 
The aid they've sent to the Palestinians could have also contributed to solving their own homeless problems as well to be fair.
Homeless problem? What like being kicked out of their homes by settlers? Or being bombed out of their homes if they’re lucky enough to survive in the first place?
 
Refugee camp bombed in Gaza, Dozens dead and hundreds injured according to Sky. Hamas blaming Israel.

Edit its been mentioned earlier.
 


 

Likud Party: Original Party Platform (1977)​

The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel)

a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.​
 
To quote my favorite living philosopher, "there are no solutions here, only tradeoffs." Nothing Israel does would appease Hamas. At some point folks need to understand this.

For Hamas it's not a land dispute. That's just the current pretext nor is it a concern for the lives of the Palestinian Arabs. That's just a 'good for public image in the West' posture. At its core it's an Ideological belief in an Islamic Caliphate. Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, their goals are not the same as the Palestinians. Even if they currently have a common foe.

This, the goal is not to blast Hamas out of existence. Rather out of effectiveness. By the way, many said similar about ISI in Iraq. And yet today they have been crushed out of effectiveness and any control. Same has to be done to Hamas.
They did that in 2014. They will do it again in another ten years. Maybe by then Hamas will have access to dirty bombs or chemicals. Thats the way its heading. What would Israels response be then?
 
More indignation over the rats than the bombing of a refugee camp.

Maybe the guy who said this...

I can see why it happened though.

on October 7th - following the rape and murder of over 250 EDM concert goers, the abduction of over 200 men, women and children and indiscriminate slaughter of over 1000 other innocents - shouldn't be judging other posters for a perceived lack of indignation.
 

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