Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

And there you have it - never about hostages just constant expansionist wars funded by "partners" and supplied by us and America whilst Netanyahu wages wars across the region to get Zionists frothing and keep the country on a war footing to avoid facing criminal charges

 
Our owners wouldn't piss on Hamas?

No of course they wouldn't because along with the US, UK, Saudi et al the UAE is complicit in the genocide going on in Palestine.
They've been bought of full stop.

And I get fed up with hearing about Hamas being s terror organisation. They for better or worse are the only armed force objecting to Israel's relentless appropriation of Palestinian land.
 
Scum! The Israel government, the IDF, and all those that support these actions, need to be brought to account.

Throw Hamas and their supporters in there as well.
 
robbieh said:
Our owners wouldn't piss on Hamas?

No of course they wouldn't because along with the US, UK, Saudi et al the UAE is complicit in the genocide going on in Palestine.
They've been bought of full stop.

And I get fed up with hearing about Hamas being s terror organisation. They for better or worse are the only armed force objecting to Israel's relentless appropriation of Palestinian land.
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Respectfully that's a load of crap. Hamas? Resistance? After going on a massacre where 70% of the victims were civilians, all they've been doing since is hide. Every place the IDF has entered, Hamas "fighters" have deserted and left the population behind to die. Most Gazans want them gone because they've gambled on their lives. They're a bunch of murderous cowards. I don't even care if you don't want to call them terrorists because that obfuscates the fact they're ineffective and have done absolutely nothing but harm to the Palestinian effort for liberty. Meanwhile Israel occupation is only getting more and more pervasive and is stealing even more Palestinian land while starving them to death. But keep talking to about resistance.. some resistance
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
Wow 58k dead now. I didn't know it had got that bad. What the fuck are isreal trying to achieve?
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Literally fulfilling the Torah but from a man-made revisionist perspective

I mean fulfilling the resurrection where Israel becomes god’s holiest land is what they (not all but a part of their cultish populace) want. To fulfill that dream, they need to complete these tasks:

1. Greater Israel with only Jews and not other religion.
2. Build the third temple, which is right on the same spot as the Al-Aqsa Mosque.

I for one would for the cults to be exiled and extradited, and let the moderate Jews, Christians, Muslims, Druze live in relative peace. Moderates existed during the times of the Ottoman with multi faith; but then came the Zionists from Europe and America. Moderates existed during the times of the Medina Charter; but then reneged the Nadir, Qurayza and Qanuya tribes who didn’t represent the other dozens of moderate Jew tribes. Moderates were accepted under Greco Roman Empire in Caesera; but then reneged the Sicarii who also killed moderate Jews.

Those renegades have one in common. They believe in the homeland, not a homeland because civilization, but homeland because gifted by God.

As a cultural zionist, Albert Einstein has been right all along. The new revisioned zionists are aggressive and oppressive. He distanced himself from the revisionist zionists because he knows the answer to your question.
 
samuelyeboah said:
Respectfully that's a load of crap. Hamas? Resistance? After going on a massacre where 70% of the victims were civilians, all they've been doing since is hide. Every place the IDF has entered, Hamas "fighters" have deserted and left the population behind to die. Most Gazans want them gone because they've gambled on their lives. They're a bunch of murderous cowards. I don't even care if you don't want to call them terrorists because that obfuscates the fact they're ineffective and have done absolutely nothing but harm to the Palestinian effort for liberty. Meanwhile Israel occupation is only getting more and more pervasive and is stealing even more Palestinian land while starving them to death. But keep talking to about resistance.. some resistance
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So you're concerned about loss of Palestinian land and that Hamas are ineffective. Were Gazans able to rustle up a fighting force more like the RAF would you be happy for them to be deployed?
 
robbieh said:
So you're concerned about loss of Palestinian land and that Hamas are ineffective. Were Gazans able to rustle up a fighting force more like the RAF would you be happy for them to be deployed?
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If they actually fought soldiers instead of constantly targeting civilians and engaged in an actual war, build civilian defenses for their population instead of cynically using civilian infrastructure to hide, of course. both of those militaries are war criminals and the blame should go to israel 100%. but I don't appreciate you whitewashing and presenting a false picture about this group of thugs. again, ask gazans if they feel like hamas is defending their land from israeli encroachment
 
cucumberman said:
Literally fulfilling the Torah but from a man-made revisionist perspective

I mean fulfilling the resurrection where Israel becomes god’s holiest land is what they (not all but a part of their cultish populace) want. To fulfill that dream, they need to complete these tasks:

1. Greater Israel with only Jews and not other religion.
2. Build the third temple, which is right on the same spot as the Al-Aqsa Mosque.

I for one would for the cults to be exiled and extradited, and let the moderate Jews, Christians, Muslims, Druze live in relative peace. Moderates existed during the times of the Ottoman with multi faith; but then came the Zionists from Europe and America. Moderates existed during the times of the Medina Charter; but then reneged the Nadir, Qurayza and Qanuya tribes who didn’t represent the other dozens of moderate Jew tribes. Moderates were accepted under Greco Roman Empire in Caesera; but then reneged the Sicarii who also killed moderate Jews.

Those renegades have one in common. They believe in the homeland, not a homeland because civilization, but homeland because gifted by God.

As a cultural zionist, Albert Einstein has been right all along. The new revisioned zionists are aggressive and oppressive. He distanced himself from the revisionist zionists because he knows the answer to your question.
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That would be the Torah that says "“Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt".
 
Vic said:
That would be the Torah that says "“Do not mistreat or oppress a foreigner, for you were foreigners in Egypt".
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That is why they cherry pick the Torah, referring to Genesis of land given by God, but downplay Torah on self sin like Leviticus and Deuteronomy on their land is conditional, which among other checklist to not oppress, to not be disobedient, to not follow the practice of sinful nation (Nazism rings a bell?).

Revisionist Zionists follow the Torah and the god-given land even if it is on colonizing others. Colonization is a spectrum from purchasing land to forceful ethnic cleansing and even worse. They have the god given right. Any act they conduct is not sinful. The American Zionist organisation of July 1899 publicly announcing that they will colonize Palestine (47 years before Israel exists).

Just to give context, here’s the Israel Forces killing an unarmed and arms up Palestinian who wanted to reach his home to pick his family out. The Israel Forces shot and killed the unarmed man a few times. The man’s brother ran close to save him, he was shot and killed too.



And that’s the West Bank. Clearly the fascist side of Israel (the Zionists) disregard the Torah that emphasized on self sin. Zionists believe they are immune of sin and that the Exodus and Genesis on god given land supercede the Torah at its whole.
 
This is not how you treat human beings:



Little glimpse into the tiny amount of suffering that israel is is inflicting upon thousands of civilians:



I can vouch for the text on that tweet. I'm pretty much used to seeing kids with their brains blown out, faces hanging off etc. It was one i saw early on in the genocide where a small child was still alive and moving but had their face completely ripped or blown off. That's stayed with me
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
news.sky.com

Foreign secretary stops short of saying Israel guilty of genocide

David Lammy MP stopped short of saying Israel was guilty of a genocide, saying that was a decision for judges in international tribunals.
news.sky.com news.sky.com

Stopping short of a genocide, .it is designed to shut the public up as we all want an immediate ceasefire. I’m ashamed of this UK government’s stance and the previous ones were just cowards frightened of Trump and Netanyahu
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Israel have long not stopped short of a genocide.
 
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