Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

[The Fat el Hombre]

Haven’t Isreal got a nuclear bomb aswell ?

Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons. Israel has a secret illicit nuclear weapons programme that it won't open up it's doors to and won't talk about, but they're randomly attacking Iran because Iran might get nuclear weapons. Israel stole the technology from the West (supposed allies like ourselves) to make their nukes.

Guardian article from 2014:

"Israel has been stealing nuclear secrets and covertly making bombs since the 1950s. And western governments, including Britain and the US, turn a blind eye. But how can we expect Iran to curb its nuclear ambitions if the Israelis won't come clean?"

The truth about Israel's secret nuclear arsenal

Israel has been stealing nuclear secrets and covertly making bombs since the 1950s. And western governments, including Britain and the US, turn a blind eye. But how can we expect Iran to curb its nuclear ambitions if the Israelis won't come clean?

www.theguardian.com

Our governments turn a blind eye to israel stealing from us and continue to act in the best interests of israel because they are bribed by israel

Avi Shalam - Israeli Historian:

Iran has never attacked a neighbour.
Israel has repeatedly attacked its neighbours.

Iran signed the nonproliferation treaty.
Israel has refused to sign.

Iran submits to inspection by the international nuclear energy agency.
Israel refuses to submit.

Iran has no nuclear weapons.
Israel has between 75 and 400 nuclear weapons.

So israel poses an existential threat to Iran. For the last 40 years israel has conducted a systematic campaign of disinformation about Iran. Why the lies? Why the double standards? Why the hypocrisy?

 

[The blue phantom]

Iran has warned the UK, US and France not to help Israel stop its strikes on the country.

Tehran said they will target ships and bases belonging to the three countries in the region if they do not step back.

That's according to comments reported by Iranian state media.

Your mate Starmer & Lammy when asked have refused to give an answer if they'll help Israel out.

Make of that what you will.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Iran has warned the UK, US and France not to help Israel stop its strikes on the country.

Tehran said they will target ships and bases belonging to the three countries in the region if they do not step back.

That's according to comments reported by Iranian state media.

Starmer hasn’t got the bottle to get involved anyway.

 

[Blue and true]

Haven’t Isreal got a nuclear bomb aswell ?

Probably not. Why would they need one? They're a peaceful nation, unlike Iran.

 

[TonyM]

I wonder if the Iran conflict is related to expanding Israel while theconditions are ripe.

The Palestinians get cleared out of their lands while Israel and Iran duke it out for the next year or 2 and then peace erupts and Israel has increased its borders significantly. Maybe into Lebanon too.

But obviously this is just made up. Hopefully no where near likely.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I wonder if the Iran conflict is related to expanding Israel while theconditions are ripe.

The Palestinians get cleared out of their lands while Israel and Iran duke it out for the next year or 2 and then peace erupts and Israel has increased its borders significantly. Maybe into Lebanon too.

But obviously this is just made up. Hopefully no where near likely.

I think Netanyahu and israel are so deep in war crimes that they are thinking fuck it, let's just try and get away with everything. But again I know nothing.

 

[The blue phantom]

Starmer hasn’t got the bottle to get involved anyway.

You mean like he sent Jets in last time Iran fired missiles over to help Israel out. or currently sending spy planes from Cyprus over Gaza and relaying the information back to the IDF. Maybe even him stating on the record Israel have the right to withhold food and power from the Palestinians.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

It was a total coincidence, but this was discusssed at our constituency party meeting. No dissent - but no vote as someone walked out and we were inquorate...


Bearing in mind that following the recent appalling action by Israel in Gaza, the government has suspended the free trade agreement talks and sanctioned extremists supporting violence in the West Bank. The Prime Minister says we will keep looking at further action. Uncertain as to what further action might be taken in response to Israel's war crimes, this CLP calls on the UK government to recognise the State of Palestine.



It’s simple. It doesn’t mention the genocide. It doesn’t mention arms sales, or RAF surveillance flights from Cyprus. It doesn’t mention settlements, or Revisionist Zionists like Ben Gvir and Smotrich who think Israel includes all the West Bank and bits of Jordan and Syria too. I congratulate the government on sanctioning them and standing up to the USA who defend these guys because they are democratically elected - even while their own government agents wrestle a democratically-elected senator to the ground and handcuff him in his own state.



And it doesn’t mention October 7th, or Hamas – because this is about a two-state solution. Now Israel would say recognising the State of Palestine would reward Hamas for the atrocities of October 7th; but then Netanyahu supported Hamas because they were opposed to the Palestinian Authority, and Hamas, like Netanyahu’s own party, don’t want a two-state solution. And now Netanyahu is funding local clans in Gaza in opposition to Hamas.



It could be argued that the apartheid that Israel has imposed on the West Bank makes a Palestinian state less viable – but to use that as a reason not to recognise a Palestinian state would be to reward Israel’s illegal occupation of the West Bank.



Those are things the motion doesn’t mention.



It says the UK should join other countries in recognising the State of Palestine. The House of Commons voted ten years ago to recognise Palestine. The Prime Minister has said recognition of Palestine could jeopardise the UK's relationship with the U.S.A. - but that’s been well jeopardised by Trump. We should join the vast majority of UN sovereign states that have recognised Palestine as a state, as a commitment to the two-state solution.
If we officially recognise Palestine and it jeopardised our relationship with the Trump regime it only proves what a “poor” relative Trump is, America is on a different path to us.

Agree If parliament voted 10 years ago to recognise Palestine who what or why wasn’t our parliamentary right carried out?
If we officially recognise Palestine and it jeopardised our relationship with the Trump regime it only proves what a “poor” relative Trump is, America is on a different path to us. We should align ourselves with our closest neighbours Ireland and Europe,

 

[Brewster's millions]

You mean like he sent Jets in last time Iran fired missiles over to help Israel out. or currently sending spy planes from Cyprus over Gaza and relaying the information back to the IDF. Maybe even him stating on the record Israel have the right to withhold food and power from the Palestinians.

You mean when the RAF helped shoot down Iranian drones in April last year, three months before he became Prime Minister?

 

[SWP's back]

Iran has warned the UK, US and France not to help Israel stop its strikes on the country.

Tehran said they will target ships and bases belonging to the three countries in the region if they do not step back.

That's according to comments reported by Iranian state media.

As much as Israel are being cunts (again), this annoys me. Iran would last about ten minutes against any of the US, UK or France.

 

[heslops barnet]

Both loathsome in different ways.
Glad I don’t have to pick a dog in that fight…after Gaza destruction and genocide my natural sympathies to Israel gone

 

[Paul1970]

Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons. Israel has a secret illicit nuclear weapons programme that it won't open up it's doors to and won't talk about, but they're randomly attacking Iran because Iran might get nuclear weapons. Israel stole the technology from the West (supposed allies like ourselves) to make their nukes.

Guardian article from 2014:

"Israel has been stealing nuclear secrets and covertly making bombs since the 1950s. And western governments, including Britain and the US, turn a blind eye. But how can we expect Iran to curb its nuclear ambitions if the Israelis won't come clean?"

The truth about Israel's secret nuclear arsenal

Israel has been stealing nuclear secrets and covertly making bombs since the 1950s. And western governments, including Britain and the US, turn a blind eye. But how can we expect Iran to curb its nuclear ambitions if the Israelis won't come clean?

www.theguardian.com

Our governments turn a blind eye to israel stealing from us and continue to act in the best interests of israel because they are bribed by israel

Avi Shalam - Israeli Historian:

Iran has never attacked a neighbour.
Israel has repeatedly attacked its neighbours.

Iran signed the nonproliferation treaty.
Israel has refused to sign.

Iran submits to inspection by the international nuclear energy agency.
Israel refuses to submit.

Iran has no nuclear weapons.
Israel has between 75 and 400 nuclear weapons.

So israel poses an existential threat to Iran. For the last 40 years israel has conducted a systematic campaign of disinformation about Iran. Why the lies? Why the double standards? Why the hypocrisy?

Your mate Starmer & Lammy when asked have refused to give an answer if they'll help Israel out.

Make of that what you will.

Course they will as he is that far up Isreal Americas arse that he’s coming out of their mouth

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Your mate Starmer & Lammy when asked have refused to give an answer if they'll help Israel out.

Make of that what you will.

This current slaughter of Palestinians goes above party politics Starmer and Lammy are complicit in the crimes Israel has committed in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
We still fly spy planes over Gaza, send spare parts for the Israeli jets to bomb the hell out of its citizens, we use our base at Akrotiri.
Corbyn has called for an inquiry in parliament I don’t know how long it will take? “months if ever”

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Starmer hadn’t got the bottle to get involved anyway.

RAF Typhoons were involved shooting down drones and missiles from Iran last time they had an exchange a few months back. Wouldn’t be suprised if we get roped into air defence for this as well.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Course they will as he is that far up Isreal Americas arse that he’s coming out of their mouth

They are all bought and paid for:

"Pro-Israel lobbyists have donated to 13 out of Labour’s 25 cabinet members since they were first elected to parliament, Declassified can reveal.

The list of recipients includes prime minister Keir Starmer, his deputy Angela Rayner, chancellor Rachel Reeves, foreign secretary David Lammy and home secretary Yvette Cooper."

Israel lobby funded half of Keir Starmer’s cabinet

Exclusive: Labour’s top team has accepted hundreds of thousands of pounds from pro-Israel funders.

www.declassifieduk.org

Its the same with the tories:

"Exclusive: Tory politicians have accepted over £430,000 from Israel lobby groups and made 187 trips to the country."

Israel lobby funded a third of Conservative MPs

Exclusive: Tory politicians have accepted over £430,000 from Israel lobby groups and made 187 trips to the country.

www.declassifieduk.org

So a vote either way is a vote for the best interests of the genocidal apartheid state of israel.

We're an occupied country. We are occupied by israel

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons. Israel has a secret illicit nuclear weapons programme that it won't open up it's doors to and won't talk about, but they're randomly attacking Iran because Iran might get nuclear weapons. Israel stole the technology from the West (supposed allies like ourselves) to make their nukes.

Guardian article from 2014:

"Israel has been stealing nuclear secrets and covertly making bombs since the 1950s. And western governments, including Britain and the US, turn a blind eye. But how can we expect Iran to curb its nuclear ambitions if the Israelis won't come clean?"

The truth about Israel's secret nuclear arsenal

Israel has been stealing nuclear secrets and covertly making bombs since the 1950s. And western governments, including Britain and the US, turn a blind eye. But how can we expect Iran to curb its nuclear ambitions if the Israelis won't come clean?

www.theguardian.com

Our governments turn a blind eye to israel stealing from us and continue to act in the best interests of israel because they are bribed by israel

Avi Shalam - Israeli Historian:

Iran has never attacked a neighbour.
Israel has repeatedly attacked its neighbours.

Iran signed the nonproliferation treaty.
Israel has refused to sign.

Iran submits to inspection by the international nuclear energy agency.
Israel refuses to submit.

Iran has no nuclear weapons.
Israel has between 75 and 400 nuclear weapons.

So israel poses an existential threat to Iran. For the last 40 years israel has conducted a systematic campaign of disinformation about Iran. Why the lies? Why the double standards? Why the hypocrisy?

You missed out the bit about Iran carrying out a proxy war against Israel by funding and arming Hamas , Hezbollah and the Houthis?

 

[Pancake Arse]

Iran has warned the UK, US and France not to help Israel stop its strikes on the country.

Tehran said they will target ships and bases belonging to the three countries in the region if they do not step back.

That's according to comments reported by Iranian state media.

That's right... Israel has just given you a spanking, so threaten THREE other nuclear powers.

Idiots.

 

[The blue phantom]

You mean when the RAF helped shoot down Iranian drones in April last year, three months before he became Prime Minister?

Spy missions from Cyprus and Starmer stating on the record about withholding food from the Gazans tops that point anyway. Another one in Netanyahus pocket.

 

[BlueTG]

More murderd Palestinians at an aid distribution centre.

Fuck the IDF.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

That's right... Israel has just given you a spanking, so threaten THREE other nuclear powers.

Idiots.

We are the idiots for getting involved with Israel, as for our nuclear “deterrent” we will never use them against a threat and Iran has many ways of targeting our country all countries have illegitimate ways of making us pay the price of our stupidity