Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

[metalblue]

Peace in Europe for the past 70+ years have blinded many people about the horrors of war.
Many now assume that it is possible to fight a war without collateral damage.
Every civilian casualty is regrettable. But the way some people go about it makes it looks like Israel is deliberately targeting civilians. Meanwhile, it's possible that these civilians were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The critics of Israel wants them to fight an impossible war.
In Lebanon, they criticized Israel for using the pagers which targeted 99% Hezbollah fighters.
They criticize Israel for returning fire when they are shot at from a hospital. Every trained soldier will return fire if fired upon from a "protected" zone in a military conflict.
They accuse Israel of shooting at people who were going to collect aids. Only for a drone footage to appear later showing Hamas fighters shooting their own people.

For many people, these conflicts are no longer about facts or objectivity. It's now about entrenched ideology.
All I can say is that Europe will pay the price for this in the coming years.

Israel is targeting civilians in Gaza. Interpreting it any other way is absurd. Israel deserves condemnation for their actions.

Hamas targets civilians and deserves condemnation for their actions.

Iran is currently targeting civilians in Israel. Iran deserves condemnation for their actions.

 

[lloydie]

Yeah sure lol

Hostages, one might say.

 

[Damocles]

Hamas official document even states that the destruction of Israel is their primary goal. That is why they do not have the establishment of a Palestinian State as an objective in their official manifesto.

Because the Palestinians class Israel as occupiers. They do not have the establishment of a Palestinian state because they think they already have one and Israel has stolen it. Which is why they want to destroy Israel. Because it's not a legitimate country and instead is like Vichy France in their minds.

You using this as some sort of moral test is bonkers.

 

[lloydie]

What I am saying is that Europe has become too soft and would fold just like the Iranians if war breaks out.
Unlike the Israelis who have been facing constant rocket attacks for many decades and who have become battle hardened.
When you look at the protests, these people think it's possible to fight a war without collateral damage.
For example, they see buildings bombed out and they think it is a genocide. Even though, the Gaza population has increased since the start of the war. Somehow, thy think they are better soldiers than real soldiers.

They set impossible military standards and cry when such standards are not met.

The people of Ukraine waves, and says "Fuck off you ****".

 

[Blue and true]

Israel is targeting civilians in Gaza. Interpreting it any other way is absurd. Israel deserves condemnation for their actions.

Hamas targets civilians and deserves condemnation for their actions.

Iran is currently targeting civilians in Israel. Iran deserves condemnation for their actions.

Pretty much.

At least you've got the bollocks to call out all shades of evil.

 

[york away to this!]

Middle Eastern, lying, murderous, dictatorial, religious cunts.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Fucking farcical the **** moaning about a hospital being hit.

 

[DelToro]

Of all the terrible human cost surely nothing compares to Netanyahu’s personal suffering at having to postpone his son’s wedding.

 

[Postman Pep]

What fools we still are

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

A more youthful looking Corbyn sat behind him there.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Looks like the Iron Dome has remained analogue in a digital age of warfare

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

We don’t have politicians of the character of Tony Benn who lived through the second world war and experienced it first hand.
We have Starmer this morning “Israel has a right to defend itself and Nuclear weapons” in the same breath. While calling for restraint.
Why is he not calling for a “ceasefire and shouting loud for Israel and Iran to obey the United Nations charter” ? Just a weak manner that no one will listen to and innocent people are dying.

 

[Postman Pep]

Again and again and again ... every accusation is a confession.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

A more youthful looking Corbyn sat behind him there.

In his IRA bomber look days

 

[bluethrunthru]

Its entirely possible this



Resulted in this assuming the Iranians are truthful - they are falling apart - settlers are always violent

 

[Postman Pep]

A more youthful looking Corbyn sat behind him there.

Clearly plotting something traitorous even back then. Why is he like this ?

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Corbyn has asked for an inquiry into the weapons and spy flights over Gaza, it was carried unanimously in the house after MPs voted, the “Israel and Palestine debate”
Like him or not Corbyn is watching the same destruction of the Palestinians day after day just like we do.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Clearly plotting something traitorous even back then. Why is he like this ?

Glad he retained his seat as an independent. We need more MPs like him.

 

[Blue and true]

Here we go again.

Wonder how many were being used as human shields?

 

[Craig]

Push the narrative?? Have you not seen the videos of it actually happening?

That word narrative stud out a mile. He’s either evil or a complete moron.