Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

Blue and true said:
*Checks notes*

Think they're talking about the women and children that are being slaughtered in Gaza. But I suppose that's an easy oversight to make for a terrorist sympathiser.

*Fair game
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I have every sympathy for innocent people who are suffering in Gaza.

But breaking into an RAF base and sabotaging British security assets is an act of terrorism and will do nothing to help anyone. It only serves to weaken our own security.

And let’s remember how this started in the first place, with the murder, slaughter, kidnap and rape of innocent people by a medieval terrorist cult on October 7 who’ve used their own people as human shields for decades in Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza rent-a-mob bandwagon hoppers love to scream about Israel as it’s a convenient mask for their deeply antisemitic views but never called out Hamas for what they are.
 
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i kne albert davy said:
Lucky the cunts weren't shot if you ask me.
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I've been to a few RAF bases including Brize as my lad's in the forces and apart from around the main entrances where security is pretty tight there's some really poorly maintained fences and the bases are fucking massive.

I'm more surprised that breaches haven't happened at many bases before or maybe they have and it's just not been reported until now.

Maybe just maybe this one (with damage rather than just trespass) is politically 'smart' from the Government stance to do so.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
I've been to a few RAF bases including Brize as my lad's in the forces and apart from around the main entrances where security is pretty tight there's some really poorly maintained fences and the bases are fucking massive.

I'm more surprised that breaches haven't happened at many bases before or maybe they have and it's just not been reported until now.

Maybe just maybe this one (with damage rather than just trespass) is politically 'smart' from the Government stance to do so.
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That’s actually quite worrying given the world we live in. Like much of our defence infrastructure this stuff needs investing in.

Some hippy twats with a can of spray paint one day, but could be a terror cell with a few backpacks full of Semtex and nails the next.

Trump is a whack job **** but to be fair he was right about saying other countries need to up their defence budgets.
 
Vic said:
They are criminal offences.

But terrorism?
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At the time of the Southport murders I seem to recall that many posters of a left-wing persuasion on here boasted an apparently perfect knowledge of the definition of terrorism in UK law, such that those heinous acts shouldn’t be categorised as such.

Now their knowledge of the matter appears challenged and patchy, even though the serious damage of property in order to promote a political cause clearly falls under the UK’s definition of terrorism. The damage of property to advance racial, religious or ideological causes also falls under the definition of terrorism, all factors potentially on display in this particular incident.

I assume this frankly surprising lack of knowledge is just a simple error on their part, perhaps a bit forgetfulness, and they agree that the law should apply equally to all.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
I have every sympathy for innocent people who are suffering in Gaza.

But breaking into an RAF base and sabotaging British security assets is an act of terrorism and will do nothing to help anyone. It only serves to weaken our own security.

And let’s remember how this started in the first place, with the murder, slaughter, kidnap and rape of innocent people by a medieval terrorist cult on October 7 who’ve used their own people as human shields for decades in Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza rent-a-mob bandwagon hoppers love to scream about Israel as it’s a convenient mask for their deeply antisemitic views but never called out Hamas for what they are.
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I agree it achieves nothing, and just shows them up as pathetic. Was just pointing out that an organisation named Palestine Action might not be acting in the name of the Irani regime.

And it didn't start on Oct 7th. But I can't be arsed getting into that for the umpteenth time.
 
Blue and true said:
You talk of reducing defensive capabilities but overlook the irony of two strangers breaking into a military compound unimpeded, wandering over to an aircraft and spray painting it. If defence starts at home then they're hardly doing a confidence-filling job, are they?

Not that I agree with what these little knobheads did, they're just an irritant like the JSO wankers. We don't need acts of vandalism to highlight genocide in Gaza when there's enough evidence out there anyway.
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Spraying paint into engines is somewhat more harmful than plain graffiti - they knew what they were doing.... why don't they fuck off back to Gaza and fight THEIR real enemy, if their that concerned?
 
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Blue and true said:
I agree it achieves nothing, and just shows them up as pathetic. Was just pointing out that an organisation named Palestine Action might not be acting in the name of the Irani regime.

And it didn't start on Oct 7th. But I can't be arsed getting into that for the umpteenth time.
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October 7th was a huge catalyst for the suffering that is happening now.... take it or leave, either way it is true.
 
maxwellblue said:
Should've been imo
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They should have been, but it’s not especially surprising that these people become emboldened to attack an RAF base when their criminal behaviour has been so meekly accepted by the government for so long. This government and the last one for that matter.

Attacking businesses that do business in Israel, displaying terrorist paraphernalia in UK city centres at weekends, calling for the destruction of countries, anti-Semitic chanting and banners. Should all have been nipped in the bud from the very start.
 
Drewmanc said:
Fucking left wing morons. That's OUR plane, part of the Royal Air Force. You remember? The ones that fought the luftwaffe, the ones who patrol the sky to determine threats when youre sleeping soundly on your duck down pillows in your ivory tower. Surely damaging a military aircraft to te extent it needs new engines is an act of terrorism and I for hope they (Palestinian Action) are rounded up and charged as such.
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Fortunately the tax the dickheads pay will have to go towards replacing them.
 
Don’t worry.
Lammy’s at the wheel .

God help us .
 

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Brewster's millions said:
…The damage of property to advance racial, religious or ideological causes also falls under the definition of terrorism, all factors potentially on display in this particular incident.

I assume this frankly surprising lack of knowledge is just a simple error on their part, perhaps a bit forgetfulness, and they agree that the law should apply equally to all.
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By this logic every act of vandalism against the premises of a UK political party is an act of terrorism. Throwing rotten tomatoes at a politician? Terrorism.

Damaging a military asset is a serious offence and should be prosecuted as such. It doesn’t require the State to lose its mind over the incident.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
I've been to a few RAF bases including Brize as my lad's in the forces and apart from around the main entrances where security is pretty tight there's some really poorly maintained fences and the bases are fucking massive.

I'm more surprised that breaches haven't happened at many bases before or maybe they have and it's just not been reported until now.

Maybe just maybe this one (with damage rather than just trespass) is politically 'smart' from the Government stance to do so.
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I'm aware of at least one early 2000s on a major naval base with a nuclear sub in dock at the time. Green peace got onto base and were on for about 2 hours before they were noticed - they were only noticed because they set a fire alarm off for attention.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
I have every sympathy for innocent people who are suffering in Gaza.

But breaking into an RAF base and sabotaging British security assets is an act of terrorism and will do nothing to help anyone. It only serves to weaken our own security.

And let’s remember how this started in the first place, with the murder, slaughter, kidnap and rape of innocent people by a medieval terrorist cult on October 7 who’ve used their own people as human shields for decades in Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza rent-a-mob bandwagon hoppers love to scream about Israel as it’s a convenient mask for their deeply antisemitic views but never called out Hamas for what they are.
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Ah yes it all started on October 7th.

And there's me thinking Palestinians were free to do as they pleased before that date. No settlers stealing houses either and murdering folk.
 
BobKowalski said:
By this logic every act of vandalism against the premises of a UK political party is an act of terrorism. Throwing rotten tomatoes at a politician? Terrorism.

Damaging a military asset is a serious offence and should be prosecuted as such. It doesn’t require the State to lose its mind over the incident.
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The law should apply equally to all and the law is clear. So this group will be dealt with accordingly.

Unless of course you’re suggesting that there’s some sort two-tier legal system in the UK, where people are treated differently according to their political views?
 
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