Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

It’s all fucking awful.

Killing innocent people is a failure of multiple governments. A human failure to keep dialogue open.

Instead we are left with war after war, killing after killing with everyone picking sides. Sheer madness.

WW1 & WW2 has gone and went and we have learned fuck all from it.
The Falklands Afghanistan twice in Iraq and N. Ireland, nothing but war and killing innocent people, Starmer siding with Trump putting us in the frame with Trump.
Iran five thousand years of civilisation and it’s invaded by Trump and Netanyahu we learned nothing
 
At the time of the Southport murders I seem to recall that many posters of a left-wing persuasion on here boasted an apparently perfect knowledge of the definition of terrorism in UK law, such that those heinous acts shouldn’t be categorised as such.

Now their knowledge of the matter appears challenged and patchy, even though the serious damage of property in order to promote a political cause clearly falls under the UK’s definition of terrorism. The damage of property to advance racial, religious or ideological causes also falls under the definition of terrorism, all factors potentially on display in this particular incident.

I assume this frankly surprising lack of knowledge is just a simple error on their part, perhaps a bit forgetfulness, and they agree that the law should apply equally to all.
Very politely put - but I will try and help in 'cutting to the chase'

So many from that group - "......posters of a left-wing persuasion on here boasted an apparently perfect knowledge of the definition of terrorism in UK law, such that those heinous acts shouldn’t be"

Are just habitually disingenuous people and unable to be objective (and honest) - so don't be surprised
 
My cousins daughter is a teacher in Bahrain , she’s been out there almost 20 years and made the place her home , she has even taught the royal families children.
Married an American guy out there who was in the navy who has now retired and basically looks after the children whilst she works , they have a fantastic life out there.
Well they’ve just got the news that they have to pack up and get out of there , don’t know the full details but I know they must be gutted . Life was good till the orange shitgibbon came along and decided to rule the world .
 
The Falklands Afghanistan twice in Iraq and N. Ireland, nothing but war and killing innocent people, Starmer siding with Trump putting us in the frame with Trump.
Iran five thousand years of civilisation and it’s invaded by Trump and Netanyahu we learned nothing
Some things never change unfortunately.

1 innocent life is 1 too many, no amount of justification will suffice.

It’s all rotten.
 
We shall see. If Iran had nukes we we would certainly see them used on Isreal. Provably Europe too.
Enough already.

Palestine was divided and half of it was given to European Jews, who like Europeans were extremely aggressive and racist towards non Europeans.

Your idea that Iran wants to attack Europe is based on nothing more than your miserable racism and European supremacist attitude.
 
The Falklands Afghanistan twice in Iraq and N. Ireland, nothing but war and killing innocent people, Starmer siding with Trump putting us in the frame with Trump.
Iran five thousand years of civilisation and it’s invaded by Trump and Netanyahu we learned nothing
Sadly the 'Christian West's is a racist, arrogant place that sees it's culture as supreme.

The rest of the world is paying a heavy price for this nonsense.

10 years ago I was in a Lebanese restaurant in London. At the table next to me was a Scottish arms dealer and someone from Obama's White House. The American assured the business man that when Hilary got in, Iran would be targeted and that they'd be doing more business together.
It's my belief that the shit going down now is as much to do about money as anything else.
 
The Falklands Afghanistan twice in Iraq and N. Ireland, nothing but war and killing innocent people, Starmer siding with Trump putting us in the frame with Trump.
Iran five thousand years of civilisation and it’s invaded by Trump and Netanyahu we learned nothing
The intoxication of hubris and arrogance.
The American Empire is going the way of all empires.
No one is immune from Ozymandias.
 
I’m talking about innocent people caught up in the war mongering from all parties involved.
Pretty disgusting what has been going on from the likes of Hamas, IDF, Hezbollah, Iran and the USA, do we, as European nations, have any impact on the world stage nowadays? I’m not sure we do.
 
The Iranians are floating the idea of closing the Straits of Hormuz.


The Strait is a pivotal trade route for the world, with around a fifth of the world's oil flowing through the tiny sea passage, along with the same proportion of all Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG), making it the 'world's most important oil transit chokepoint'.

Gerrit Heinemann told Bild that should Iran choose to close the Strait, which borders the country, the results would be 'catastrophic.'

'[It would be] worse than Corona and Putin combined! The second episode of the ongoing crisis would be even more severe than what we experienced at the beginning of the Ukraine war and during the Corona years. A disaster,'

He told the newspaper: 'A large part of the global supply chains runs through the affected region. This not only dramatically impacts energy supplies, but also the flow of goods.

'All of a sudden, all the crises we had just overcome would return: the energy crisis, inflation, disrupted supply chains, and now the threat of mass unemployment.'

At its thinnest, it is just 21 miles wide, and the shipping lanes in the Strait are even smaller.

This makes it incredible vulnerable to attacks, which international leaders have already warned.​

Iraq's foreign minister Fuad Hussein warned of a 'global energy crisis' if the Strait is closed.

Cutting the world off from such a large source of energy would massively affect economies across the world, which still largely rely on non-renewable sources like oil for their needs.




Prof. Dr. Gerrit Heinemann is Professor of Business Administration, Management and Commerce as well as founder and head of the eWeb Research Center at Niederrhein University of Applied Sciences. He is one of the most distinguished retail experts in the German-speaking world.

I just think Iran are in such a weak position now that they won’t do this particular as it affects their own exports to China. If they have any sense they will come to a deal with America to send a few missiles that will miss the targets to show how hard they are and then just do as they are told. They have been outed as completely weak so far and Israel have hammered them. I’m sure Russia will say a few strong things then do a deal with America on Ukraine if they haven’t already.

Starmer has spoken with Trump he’s now towing the Trump line, by that I mean “Iran is not allowed a nuclear weapons”
It’s tragic isn’t it.
 
Enough already.

Palestine was divided and half of it was given to European Jews, who like Europeans were extremely aggressive and racist towards non Europeans.

Your idea that Iran wants to attack Europe is based on nothing more than your miserable racism and European supremacist attitude.
A place so aggressive and racist that it welcomes those fleeing war, houses them and feeds them and then gives them another life?

A place so aggressive and racist that the fastest growing populations within it are these supposed oppressed?

It's sad to be so blinded by the politics of a relative minority that it causes you to hate your own home. Whatever Europe is or isn't, it's home, and unlike elsewhere it keeps you safe and it even allows you to post on this forum without fear of persecution or death.
 
A place so aggressive and racist that it welcomes those fleeing war, houses them and feeds them and then gives them another life?

A place so aggressive and racist that the fastest growing populations within it are the oppressed?

A place where equality and racial equality is enshrined in law? A place that people flee to in order to escape actual inequality and oppression?

It's sad to be so blinded by the politics of a relative minority that it causes you to hate your own home.
Like many you seem to confuse our rather excellent policy at home with our appalling record overseas. The two things often linked by the way .
 

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