Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

inchy14 said:
Then, with respect, don’t state that they did.
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With respect, don’t be an idiot. Everyone knows that the current conflict started on October 7th and yes, Hamas started it.

So this is not taken out of context, I remind people that I said,

“I said from the beginning the Israeli actions would never defeat Hamas, only recruit more members. What they are doing would drive any normal being who's had their home, their family, their whole life destroyed, to hate them with a burning passion.

That Hamas started this is LONG forgotten”
 
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Chippy_boy said:
With respect, don’t be an idiot. Everyone knows that the current conflict started on October 7th and yes, Hamas started it.

So this is not taken out of context, I remind people that I said,

“I said from the beginning the Israeli actions would never defeat Hamas, only recruit more members. What they are doing would drive any normal being who's had their home, their family, their whole life destroyed, to hate them with a burning passion.

That Hamas started this is LONG forgotten”
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"On October 6, 2023, Gaza, a small area about 22 miles long and between 5 and 8 miles wide, was packed with 2.3 million Palestinians, two-thirds of whom were refugees and survivors of the 1948 Nakba. Israel was imposing a severe siege on the whole strip (with cooperation from Egypt on the southern border) whereby no people or goods could enter or leave the strip without Israeli approval."

Reflections on October 6,7 and 8 by Jonathan kuttab

www.nonviolenceinternational.net www.nonviolenceinternational.net
 
I’m watching Sky News and they have a person in pink who has just gone full Netanyahu, telling people to forget what they see and is full on Israel propaganda.

Then carries on to say Lammy should be sacked, imagine the irony and hypocrisy in these statements. What a fucking shit show this is. Israeli paid influencers being aloud on the main media outlets. Gove this morning, this **** tonight.

This is how politics is these days, pay for people to get their message out, and certain media air it.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
I’m watching Sky News and they have a person in pink who has just gone full Netanyahu, telling people to forget what they see and is full on Israel propaganda.

Then carries on to say Lammy should be sacked, imagine the irony and hypocrisy in these statements. What a fucking shit show this is. Israeli paid influencers being aloud on the main media outlets. Gove this morning, this **** tonight.

This is how politics is these days, pay for people to get their message out, and certain media air it.
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The 'big lie theory', it's used by every from the nazis to Blair and bush - and Trump loves its. Unfortunately it works, theirs still idiots claiming Israel would never attack a hospital, there's likely posts claiming it if you go back a couple of hundred pages.
 
Chippy_boy said:
With respect, don’t be an idiot. Everyone knows that the current conflict started on October 7th and yes, Hamas started it.

So this is not taken out of context, I remind people that I said,

“I said from the beginning the Israeli actions would never defeat Hamas, only recruit more members. What they are doing would drive any normal being who's had their home, their family, their whole life destroyed, to hate them with a burning passion.

That Hamas started this is LONG forgotten”
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No it fucking didn’t, you want to use that one incident for everything that happened since yet want to ignore 70 odd years prior.
Only 1 idiot here.
 

“And protestors are imprisoned, while IDF soldiers travel freely around the world on their breaks from killing”
“we just have to keep on TELLING THE TRUTH”


Holocaust is a word we use for what the NAZI did to Jews, a new word will emerge for what Netanyahu is doing to Palestinians “ethnic cleansing” ? It would help if we recognise the state of “Palestine” and drop food aid. It breaks my heart to see them starve and the hostages must be freed.
 
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Kirkstall Blue said:

“And protestors are imprisoned, while IDF soldiers travel freely around the world on their breaks from killing”
“we just have to keep on TELLING THE TRUTH”


Holocaust is a word we use for what the NAZI did to Jews, a new word will emerge for what Netanyahu is doing to Palestinians “ethnic cleansing” ? It would help if we recognise the state of “Palestine” and drop food aid. It breaks my heart to see them starve and the hostages must be freed.
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One or 2 posters will now denounce the above and quote someone else saying it’s not genocide etc…
 
inchy14 said:
One or 2 posters will now denounce the above and quote someone else saying it’s not genocide etc…
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They will inchy it’s a football forum, during the Second World War no one believed the reports coming out of Germany either.

The general public knew nothing of the horrific murder of the Jews, but the government DID know something was going on that Jews were being taken to concentration camps. But only after AUSCHWITZ was liberated by the Russians did we know the full extent of the tragedy that had taken place, as with all wars where innocent people are slaughtered government thinks only about our GDP

They did nothing and only after the Second World War did we know the horror of it all, lessons learned by me those reports from Germany in 1945 still haunt right minded people.

The government still do nothing over Gaza pretending we can’t drop food aid and end the blockade, or declare Gaza the independent state of Palestine this time, the reports coming out of Gaza we see it on our screens every day but some people don’t see the news that I see.
 
Bigger question is what does Iran do from here? Its Axis of Resistance has been decapitated over the last year or so. Without Hezbollah/Hamas/Houthis, Iran loses its ability to hit Israel itself. Missile exchanges proved that Israel can hit Iran more or less at will, while Iranian missiles are much less effective. However, as long as Iran remains a theocracy, its rulers will always want the bomb and/or a mean to harm Israel.
 
Israel has turned into what they despised the most, I make no apologies for calling them the new Nazis, they are literally doing what was done to the Jews in WW2. It’s about time every fucker called them out, yes October 7th was horrific but this is an extermination pure and simple, shame on anyone who supports this.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
They will inchy it’s a football forum, during the Second World War no one believed the reports coming out of Germany either.

The general public knew nothing of the horrific murder of the Jews, but the government DID know something was going on that Jews were being taken to concentration camps. But only after AUSCHWITZ was liberated by the Russians did we know the full extent of the tragedy that had taken place, as with all wars where innocent people are slaughtered government thinks only about our GDP

They did nothing and only after the Second World War did we know the horror of it all, lessons learned by me those reports from Germany in 1945 still haunt right minded people.

The government still do nothing over Gaza pretending we can’t drop food aid and end the blockade, or declare Gaza the independent state of Palestine this time, the reports coming out of Gaza we see it on our screens every day but some people don’t see the news that I see.
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Governments knew about the concentration camps but they took the view that the war needed to be won first before they could do anything and also ithink they need the railway lines that were been used for the allied advance (although I could be wrong on that)
 
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