Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

Gorton_Tubster said:
The hatred they are bringing upon themselves! Unbelievable.
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Israel will never find peace in a land they have taken by force, people will never forget the deliberate land grab by the IDF or making the Palestinians leave their homes in the north of Gaza and herd them like cattle to the southern point of the strip.

Using starvation as a weapon of war on an unarmed population and we are expected to accept the takeover of Palestine without a fight.
 


Israeli CHILDREN blocking the aid trucks to starving people, if Israel takes over Gaza what will happen to the Palestinians who are concentrated in a small area of Gaza ?

Have we got deliberately starving people wrong, who should we believe the IDF say “thousands of aid trucks are inside Gaza” waiting for the UN to distribute the food in the ceasefire windows created”?
Have the UN downed tools and just not distributing the aid.?
 
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Further to my post that the IDF should be banned from travelling.

Essentially Palestinians have been banned from travelling for decades.

Gazans can't because although under self rule they are in an open prison.

Palestinians living in the West Bank can travel but they have to go into Jordan to do so via the Allenby bridge which is controlled by Israel. Endless delays, arrests etc make it a trip not for the feint hearted.

And that I think says more about the situation than anything. Basically people whose grandparents were born in Palestine are essentially prisoners whereas people whose grandparents were born in Warsaw, London, New York, Cape Town and elsewhere are as free as birds.
 
robbieh said:
Further to my post that the IDF should be banned from travelling.

Essentially Palestinians have been banned from travelling for decades.

Gazans can't because although under self rule they are in an open prison.

Palestinians living in the West Bank can travel but they have to go into Jordan to do so via the Allenby bridge which is controlled by Israel. Endless delays, arrests etc make it a trip not for the feint hearted.

And that I think says more about the situation than anything. Basically people whose grandparents were born in Palestine are essentially prisoners whereas people whose grandparents were born in Warsaw, London, New York, Cape Town and elsewhere are as free as birds.
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Yes but Hamas!!!
 
robbieh said:
Further to my post that the IDF should be banned from travelling.

Essentially Palestinians have been banned from travelling for decades.

Gazans can't because although under self rule they are in an open prison.

Palestinians living in the West Bank can travel but they have to go into Jordan to do so via the Allenby bridge which is controlled by Israel. Endless delays, arrests etc make it a trip not for the feint hearted.

And that I think says more about the situation than anything. Basically people whose grandparents were born in Palestine are essentially prisoners whereas people whose grandparents were born in Warsaw, London, New York, Cape Town and elsewhere are as free as birds.
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The IDF still targeting unarmed Palestinian civilians, 20 shot dead today while waiting for food

Netanyahu his father was born in Poland and his grandfather in Belarus, exclusively European DNA
 
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There was some footage on X of two lads driving around Broughton Park spraying water pistols at Orthodox Jews and laughing into the camera - thats just fucking sick and IS an example of antisemitism. Thankfully their faces were clearly shown so I hope the Police will knock them up early one morning to face the music - hopefully they were not Blues but if you are and if you are on here FUCK OFF YOU ARE NOT WELCOME.

EDIT - I haven't posted the footage for reasons above
 
Kirkstall Blue said:


Israeli CHILDREN blocking the aid trucks to starving people, if Israel takes over Gaza what will happen to the Palestinians who are concentrated in a small area of Gaza ?

Have we got deliberately starving people wrong, who should we believe the IDF say “thousands of aid trucks are inside Gaza” waiting for the UN to distribute the food in the ceasefire windows created”?
Have the UN downed tools and just not distributing the aid.?
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Weirdly enough, I was watching the Who Do You Think You Are? episode with Ruby Wax today. Her parents left Vienna after the Germans invaded.

It seems her father was arrested as part of a strategy to "encourage" Austrian Jews to leave the country. He was freed after a few months of unpleasant captivity as long as he signed a document that he would leave Austria as soon as possible. Not surprisingly, he did along with 100,000 others iirc.

The remaining Viennese Jews were restricted in what they could eat, when and where they could obtain food and couldn't access their bank accounts. They were attacked in the streets when trying to get food. Many starved.

Eventually they were shipped out to ghettos where many died due to the awful conditions. Interestingly, it wasn't described as died from malnutrition or ill-health, but as murder as part of a genocide.

Now, I don't want to draw any comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy in Palestine with that of the Nazis in Austria, because that would be anti-Semitism as defined by the IHRA. But it did strike me how cleverly worded that definition was.
 
robbieh said:
For me a start would be barring anyone who has served in the IDF recently from travelling to the UK or Europe.
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So everybody in Isreal then - except of course strict Orthodox Jews who somehow still get a free pas from serving in the IDF. - The very same group who want Israel to reclaim all land upto the maximum boundaries of the ancient Kingdon of Isreal under King Solomon.

Think it through.
 
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BlueAnorak said:
So everybody in Isreal then - except of course strict Orthodox Jews who somehow still get a free pas from serving in the IDF. - The very same group who want Israel to reclaim all land upto the maximum boundaries of the ancient Kingdon of Isreal under King Solomon.

Think it through.
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As I said in another post I'd include all Israelis, your problem is solved.
 
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halfcenturyup said:
Weirdly enough, I was watching the Who Do You Think You Are? episode with Ruby Wax today. Her parents left Vienna after the Germans invaded.

It seems her father was arrested as part of a strategy to "encourage" Austrian Jews to leave the country. He was freed after a few months of unpleasant captivity as long as he signed a document that he would leave Austria as soon as possible. Not surprisingly, he did along with 100,000 others iirc.

The remaining Viennese Jews were restricted in what they could eat, when and where they could obtain food and couldn't access their bank accounts. They were attacked in the streets when trying to get food. Many starved.

Eventually they were shipped out to ghettos where many died due to the awful conditions. Interestingly, it wasn't described as died from malnutrition or ill-health, but as murder as part of a genocide.

Now, I don't want to draw any comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy in Palestine with that of the Nazis in Austria, because that would be anti-Semitism as defined by the IHRA. But it did strike me how cleverly worded that definition was.
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“The UK government formally adopted the IHRA definition in 2016.

  • Many universities in the UK have also adopted the definition.

  • While the definition is non-legally binding, its adoption aims to provide a common understanding of antisemitism and guide efforts to combat it.

  • Critics argue that the definition's examples related to Israel could stifle legitimate criticism of the country and its policies.

  • Supporters of the definition argue it is crucial for protecting Jewish individuals and communities from antisemitism.

  • Some legal experts have suggested that public bodies should add a clarification stating that criticism of Israel is not inherently antisemitic unless it contains additional evidence of antisemitic intent”
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  • This is how google interpreted the IHRA Adopted by the UK in 2016.To be fair it’s double Dutch to most people apart from the legal profession it preys on our governments approach to the war on Gaza and explains why Netanyahu has been given a free pass.
The Palestinians get nothing we assist Israel
Unlike Putin where we have used sanctions and military equipment Russia is in the wrong for raging war on Ukraine.
 
Blue and true said:
www.nytimes.com

Israeli Security Cabinet Approves Plan to Take Control of Gaza City

The announcement appeared to stop short of saying explicitly that Israel would take full control of the Gaza Strip, which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said was his intention earlier.
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Netanyahu wants to claim all of Gaza, but he's facing some resistance from military top brass. Hopefully this resistance intensifies.
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He has made the famous speech to his Generals

"it will be hard, it will be tough and many IDF soldiers and all of our remaining hostages will die but that is a risk I am prepared to take from my bunker under a hospital in Tel Aviv "
 
I'll say one thing about these authoritarian right wing fuckers is they lie and just assume the world accepts their bullshit as gospel - which of course we don't

 
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