Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

[Vic]

Weirdly enough, I was watching the Who Do You Think You Are? episode with Ruby Wax today. Her parents left Vienna after the Germans invaded.

It seems her father was arrested as part of a strategy to "encourage" Austrian Jews to leave the country. He was freed after a few months of unpleasant captivity as long as he signed a document that he would leave Austria as soon as possible. Not surprisingly, he did along with 100,000 others iirc.

The remaining Viennese Jews were restricted in what they could eat, when and where they could obtain food and couldn't access their bank accounts. They were attacked in the streets when trying to get food. Many starved.

Eventually they were shipped out to ghettos where many died due to the awful conditions. Interestingly, it wasn't described as died from malnutrition or ill-health, but as murder as part of a genocide.

Now, I don't want to draw any comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy in Palestine with that of the Nazis in Austria, because that would be anti-Semitism as defined by the IHRA. But it did strike me how cleverly worded that definition was.

That example of antisemitism was drawn up nine years ago. "Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis."

I dare say a lot of public bodies and others that adopted the IHRA definition of antisemitism AND the examples would hesitate now about several of the examples.

Even the incident above of using water pistols against Jews, under the IHRA principles, would only be antisemitism if they were squirting water only at Jews.

It should be obvious what constitutes antisemitism but it’s been devalued not just by what Israel has become but because too many have used accusations of antisemitism to protect Israeli policies.

 

[Manchester33]

There was some footage on X of two lads driving around Broughton Park spraying water pistols at Orthodox Jews and laughing into the camera - thats just fucking sick and IS an example of antisemitism. Thankfully their faces were clearly shown so I hope the Police will knock them up early one morning to face the music - hopefully they were not Blues but if you are and if you are on here FUCK OFF YOU ARE NOT WELCOME.

EDIT - I haven't posted the footage for reasons above

Israel’s actions are emboldening the retarded idiots who do things like this. I feel so sorry for the Jewish population here who are opposed to the genocide but will suffer through a massive increase in antisemitism.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Israel’s actions are emboldening the retarded idiots who do things like this. I feel so sorry for the Jewish population here who are opposed to the genocide but will suffer through a massive increase in antisemitism.

been saying this for ages

 

[KS55]

Wow does that mean the 'surgical precision strikes', that was fiercely debated and defended a few months ago was actually a load of old bollocks!? I'm seeing a pattern now: Precision strikes.... Never attack hospitals....Not restricting aid....Not a famine...Not a genocide...kinda starting to feel like I've been lied to.

In such a conflict, all parties lie all the time.

 

[The blue phantom]

I'll say one thing about these authoritarian right wing fuckers is they lie and just assume the world accepts their bullshit as gospel - which of course we don't

So he's saying every single building in Gaza is/was booby/trapped by Hamas. It's those explosives that have brought all the buildings down. So basically he's stating Israel haven't fired any missiles over or bombed any buildings.

Glad he's cleared all this up

 

[bluethrunthru]

So he's saying every single building in Gaza is/was booby/trapped by Hamas. It's those explosives that have brought all the buildings down. So basically he's stating Israel haven't fired any missiles over or bombed any buildings.

Glad he's cleared all this up

so all those flights and bombs dropped all those IDF deaths never happened? There is a long list of people you can list who basically deny the truth and expect everyone else to believe their denial despite evidence to the contrary - even from their own supporters.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Israeli negotiator explains how he had it twice in writing from hamas (in English and arabic) that they were willing to release all hostages and not govern gaza in return for an end to the war, letting aid in, the release of the (thousands of) Palestinian hostages/prisoners and the withdrawal of Israeli troops:



I mean its almost like it was never about the hostages at any point. By the way, does anyone remember when they shot 3 of their own hostages who were waving white flags "after mistakenly identifying them as a threat". Wow these reports are only going to get more horrifying now everyone knows and its crystal clear what israels intentions were all along:

Israeli hostages mistakenly killed by IDF in Gaza‘were holding makeshift white flag’

Rights groups say killing anyone who has surrendered is against international law

www.independent.co.uk

 

[mattcity5]

If anyone still thinks it isn't a genocide, I'll just ask one question - when do you think Israel will stop?

Because they aren't going to. At all.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Mass protest organisers dismiss ‘feeble’ first charges for Palestine Action support

DEFEND OUR JURIES slammed "feeble attempts" to derail Saturday's upcoming protest against Palestine Action's proscription today as police "rushed through" the first charges for showing support for the group.Jeremy Shippam, 71, of West Sussex, Judit Murray, 71, of Surrey, and Fiona Maclean, 53...

morningstaronline.co.uk

The ages of the supporting terrorist action group
Jeremy Shippam, 71, of West Sussex, Judith Murray, 71, of Surrey, and Fiona Maclean, 53, of Hackney, north-east London, were charged under section 13 of the Terrorism Act 2000

It means that membership or support for Palestine Action is a crime that can lead to up to 14 years in jail.
Some 200 people have been arrested on suspicion of publicly protesting support for PA since it was banned.

 

[The blue phantom]

The poll which Haaretz are reporting on is now 8 out of 10 Israeli Jews are not troubled by what's happening in Gaza.

Absolutely fuckin insane.

Large majority of Israeli Jews untroubled by reports of famine in Gaza, poll finds

***

www.haaretz.com

 

[The blue phantom]

So that's it now they have officially announced they are going to take over Gaza.

I'm afraid it's time to sanction the fuck out of them. Ban them from every sporting competition going too. Which should of been done a long time ago.

Starmer has just said "It's Wrong"

No shit

 

[Nightmare Walking]

There was some footage on X of two lads driving around Broughton Park spraying water pistols at Orthodox Jews and laughing into the camera - thats just fucking sick and IS an example of antisemitism. Thankfully their faces were clearly shown so I hope the Police will knock them up early one morning to face the music - hopefully they were not Blues but if you are and if you are on here FUCK OFF YOU ARE NOT WELCOME.

EDIT - I haven't posted the footage for reasons above

I was walking up Briscoe Lane and got soaked, after lads firing super soakers at me, while driving past. They were laughing as they done it.
I'm white/English.
It's not a big deal and has absolutely no relevance to what's going on in the middle east.

 

[mattcity5]

There was some footage on X of two lads driving around Broughton Park spraying water pistols at Orthodox Jews and laughing into the camera - thats just fucking sick and IS an example of antisemitism. Thankfully their faces were clearly shown so I hope the Police will knock them up early one morning to face the music - hopefully they were not Blues but if you are and if you are on here FUCK OFF YOU ARE NOT WELCOME.

EDIT - I haven't posted the footage for reasons above

However, on the scales of how sick something is, it doesn't quite match up to an actual genocide that is currently going on...

 

[robbieh]

However, on the scales of how sick something is, it doesn't quite match up to an actual genocide that is currently going on...

Totally agree. But as most politicians in the west value Jewish feelings above Palestinian dismemberment it will get more headlines.

The Israeli hostage who is starving, like everybody else, being a prime example.

I have no idea why a peacekeeping force hasn't been sent in apart from the fact Trump has probably vetoed it behind the scenes.

All that is left is what ordinary people around the world are doing. I see a German football club's fans have stopped the club from signing an Israeli. The Royal Ballet not going to Tel Aviv. More and more musicians coming out in support.
Israelis being refused service in restaurants. And I stress Israelis not Jews.
I'm sure everyone in Tel Aviv will scream these measures are antisemitic. Well let them.

 

[Gremlin]

I have no idea why a peacekeeping force hasn't been sent in apart from the fact Trump has probably vetoed it behind the scenes.

For a peacekeeping force to be sent in, there first needs to be a peace to keep. I think what you are thinking of is peace enforcement (i.e. invasion by a third party force) and that isn't going to happen.

 

[robbieh]

For a peacekeeping force to be sent in, there first needs to be a peace to keep. I think what you are thinking of is peace enforcement (i.e. invasion by a third party force) and that isn't going to happen.

Fine. The other alternative is to arm the side under attack as in Ukraine.

But no the people we are arming are the ones with all the weapons.

It is a fucking joke.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

For a peacekeeping force to be sent in, there first needs to be a peace to keep. I think what you are thinking of is peace enforcement (i.e. invasion by a third party force) and that isn't going to happen.

Israel shoots at peacekeepers anyway:

"“In my experience, we kind of kept manners on the Israelis. In other words, we kept them from committing the more serious actions, or for want of a better word, atrocities, that they might have committed if we hadn’t been sitting there watching them or tailing them around, as we often did ,” he said."

"The UN peacekeepers have been in the line of fire again. UNIFIL said the Israeli army had “repeatedly hit” UN positions in the space of 48 hours, hitting a watchtower, disabling cameras, and injuring multiple peacekeepers."

How Irish peacekeepers stood their ground in the face of an Israeli invasion

Irish peacekeepers have a long history of putting themselves in the firing line in Lebanon — and becoming so close with locals that people speak English with a Cork accent, Richard Hall writes

www.independent.co.uk

Kinda hard to make any progress with anything when israel keeps refusing peace deals and keeps killing and shooting everyone (including negotiators)

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

The death toll in Gaza rises to sixty one thousand Palestinian nameless people:(

It’s hard to believe one year ago Roger Waters of Pink Floyd fame called for a one state solution called “Palestine” all the Europeans should go home”.

The IDF turned the solution upside down,12 months later and we are getting Israel one state solution from the river to the sea after a one sided war in which we are complicit in.
The Israel and bomb lobby forced it on us.

 

[dublinblue12]

US Congress group expresses 'concerns' over Govt's OTB

A group of US Congress members has written to US Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent asking him to consider adding Ireland to a list of countries which boycott Israel if the Occupied Territories Bill is passed.

www.rte.ie

The group of congressmen and women said the US must "send a clear signal that efforts to economically isolate Israel will carry consequences, and that US law designed to combat such discrimination will be enforced".

 

[robbieh]

US Congress group expresses 'concerns' over Govt's OTB

A group of US Congress members has written to US Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent asking him to consider adding Ireland to a list of countries which boycott Israel if the Occupied Territories Bill is passed.

www.rte.ie

The group of congressmen and women said the US must "send a clear signal that efforts to economically isolate Israel will carry consequences, and that US law designed to combat such discrimination will be enforced".

Israel and the US will be on their own soon enough. Fuck em both.