Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

Brewster's millions said:
The UK government doesn’t believe it’s a genocide.

Which is ironic really given that you spend hour upon hour on here slavishly defending everything that this government does, and indeed doesn’t do.
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I'm pretty sure he doesn't agree with absolutely everything this government says or does so I suggest you stop deflecting. What you've said can also be flipped on its head because as you never have anything positive to say about this government, I can only assume that you totally disagree with them and that it is indeed genocide. Well done - you got there in the end.
 
M18CTID said:
I'm pretty sure he doesn't agree with absolutely everything this government says or does so I suggest you stop deflecting. What you've said can also be flipped on its head because as you never have anything positive to say about this government, I can only assume that you totally disagree with them and that it is indeed genocide. Well done - you got there in the end.
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He's been an advocate of the laws of the land has Brewster. If the Goverment proscribe Palestine Action as a terriost group then that's what they are. And arresting them is more important than robberies knife crime etc etc. So it will be interesting to see what his take is on International law and the UN's findings
 
We are waiting for our turn to die, says 18-year-old Palestinian girl

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Eighteen-year-old Sanabel together with her parents and three younger siblings have remained in Gaza City, up until now.

Over half of her friends and extended family members were killed by strikes. Last week her family home was destroyed by an Israeli missile and they found refuge with friends in Gaza City.

“I don’t know where I should go," Sanabel tells me in a voice message, she sent overnight, while drones and explosions can be heard in the background.

The family left their home in a hurry with no place to go, fearing that they might have to move further south and live on the street.

Her message is desperate, she is crying and saying the dangerous situation frightens her. She is also exhausted by the war.

“I don’t want to live through more wars,” she says.

“All of us are suffering and struggling here in Gaza and the situation will never be OK anymore.”

Photos she sent me of her home show her destroyed childhood bedroom with pink furniture that is now covered in dust and debris from the missile strike.

“I am going to send you a photo of me," she says, “we are waiting [for] our turn to die so please don’t forget me.”
 
A little earlier we heard from Navi Pillay, the chair of the panel that produced this new UN report which says Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.

She describes Israel’s operations as the “most ruthless, prolonged and widespread attack against the Palestinian people since 1948” - referencing the year of the Arab-Israeli war, during which 750,000 Palestinians fled or were forced from their homes on land which became Israel.

The event is known in Arabic as the Nakba, or Catastrophe.

She says that the commission is concerned that the "specific intent" to "destroy the Palestinians as a whole” is guiding Israel in its operations in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, as well as Gaza.

“The genocide convention was born out of humanities, darkest chapters," she says. "Today, we witness in real time how the promise of never again is broken and tested in the eyes of the world."

“The ongoing genocide in Gaza is a moral outrage and illegal emergency. Member states must act now.”
 
HelloCity said:
A little earlier we heard from Navi Pillay, the chair of the panel that produced this new UN report which says Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.

She describes Israel’s operations as the “most ruthless, prolonged and widespread attack against the Palestinian people since 1948” - referencing the year of the Arab-Israeli war, during which 750,000 Palestinians fled or were forced from their homes on land which became Israel.

The event is known in Arabic as the Nakba, or Catastrophe.

She says that the commission is concerned that the "specific intent" to "destroy the Palestinians as a whole” is guiding Israel in its operations in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, as well as Gaza.

“The genocide convention was born out of humanities, darkest chapters," she says. "Today, we witness in real time how the promise of never again is broken and tested in the eyes of the world."

“The ongoing genocide in Gaza is a moral outrage and illegal emergency. Member states must act now.”
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David Lammy has commented the 'evidence in the report does not meet the criteria for genocide as defined in the ICC.'
 
Lammy is complicit he has done nothing to prevent the killing of innocent adults and children platitudes is all we have from him, the RAF flies over Gaza daily and he doesn’t even watch the video. He passes the film to Netanyahu

The UN reports some acts are so horrendous we can never forget them…..I will never forget the pictures coming out of Gaza so bad we can’t print them.
 
SiMCFC said:
The report is pretty sickening reading to be honest, as usual though they will just deny what they are doing and shout that everyone is against them.

This bit really got to me...

"The commission also finds that Israeli forces have imposed measures intended to prevent births - pointing to an attack against Gaza’s largest fertility clinic, which reportedly destroyed around 4,000 embryos and 1,000 sperm samples and unfertilised eggs."

Heartbreaking, cruel and 100% genocidal, literally trying to wipe Palestinaians off the face of the Earth
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You forget, they and the American Zionists don't think it can be genocide because there's no such thing as a Palestinian.
 
johnny crossan said:
Trying to understand the status of the Independent UN Genocide Commission. The UN Office on Genocide Prevention and the Responsibility to Protect (OSAPG) is a separate body set up in 1948 after the holocaust.
The naming of Israel as a perpetrator of genocide is an incendiary conclusion for that country and they have denounced it as politically motivated and using only Hamas sources.
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They have used the statements of Israeli politicians as evidence of genocidal intent - including Netanyahu and Herzog. We should have arrested him last week.
 
SiMCFC said:
The report is pretty sickening reading to be honest, as usual though they will just deny what they are doing and shout that everyone is against them.

This bit really got to me...

"The commission also finds that Israeli forces have imposed measures intended to prevent births - pointing to an attack against Gaza’s largest fertility clinic, which reportedly destroyed around 4,000 embryos and 1,000 sperm samples and unfertilised eggs."

Heartbreaking, cruel and 100% genocidal, literally trying to wipe Palestinaians off the face of the Earth
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And still the world remains quiet.
Who really runs the world ?

Perhaps that's not a question you are allowed to ask, you are certainly not allowed to give an honest answer.
 
Radovan Karadzic is imprisoned within the UK for crimes against humanity and genocide.
This shows that the UK Government will act decisively when these disgraceful acts occur.
I wonder if David Lammy and the rest of the world's politicians will tell me what is different about that genocide and the one being committed in front of us right now.
I assume the answer is no one dare stand up to Israel and stop it.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:


What are we doing there at all, if we don’t keep records of flying over Gaza ? So sad for the people if we can’t ascertain if a genocide is being committed by Israel because it’s classified information. It’s only for hostage search and rescue.
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We fly over Gaza daily and pass the film over to the IDF so they can pick and choose which high rise or nursery they can annihilate next.
We are not very good …….it’s months since we found or released any hostages
Blue Mist said:
And still the world remains quiet.
Who really runs the world ?

Perhaps that's not a question you are allowed to ask, you are certainly not allowed to give an honest answer.
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I think I can give an honest answer as the recent events in Gaza has shown, the US, UK and Israel are currently in the same trough as Russia and China with shares in the arms industry

The arms industry makes billions killing innocent civilians and we do their bidding unlike the government of Ireland who remained independent of the UK and out of the arms industry so free to do the right thing and make Palestine and Gaza a free “state”
 
Blue Mist said:
And still the world remains quiet.
Who really runs the world ?

Perhaps that's not a question you are allowed to ask, you are certainly not allowed to give an honest answer.
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People shy away from this question because it's used as an antisemitism trope. In reality, the majority of the world's richest and most powerful people are white Anglo-Saxon protestants

American (and its allies') foreign policy is the biggest evil on the planet
 
Gobshiight said:
People shy away from this question because it's used as an antisemitism trope. In reality, the majority of the world's richest and most powerful people are white Anglo-Saxon protestants

American (and its allies') foreign policy is the biggest evil on the planet
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Any criticism of Israel is immediately and vociferously jumped on and you are called anti semitic but politicians are surely able to withstand that accusation.
In reality the silent power and the money that goes with that power is Jewish.
There can be no other explanation as to why governments will not stop this slaughter.
We acted when Yugoslavia fell apart and Muslims were being massacred so clearly it is not the fact that the Palestinians are Muslims.
We acted against 'white christian' leaders who were commiting this genocide and ethnic cleansing.
The only difference is the religion of the people committing this current genocide and people are to frightened to say it.
 
Blue Mist said:
Any criticism of Israel is immediately and vociferously jumped on and you are called anti semitic but politicians are surely able to withstand that accusation.
In reality the silent power and the money that goes with that power is Jewish.
There can be no other explanation as to why governments will not stop this slaughter.
We acted when Yugoslavia fell apart and Muslims were being massacred so clearly it is not the fact that the Palestinians are Muslims.
We acted against 'white christian' leaders who were commiting this genocide and ethnic cleansing.
The only difference is the religion of the people committing this current genocide and people are to frightened to say it.
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You're right that Israel deliberately hides behind antisemitism, but that doesn't mean that the ultimate power behind this genocide is Jewish people

America can stop what's going on any time they want, and they will do so the minute it stops being a benefit to them in the region. It doesn't matter how many of its politicians are paid off by special interest groups
 
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