Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

robbieh said:
As we all know Netanyahu doesn't give a toss about the hostages so if Hamas had returned the hostages on day 1, Israel would still have gone ahead with the annihilation of Gaza.
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If Netanyahu hadn’t bombed Doha all the hostages might have been out already

Remember Netanyahu’s words he’s not stopping the invasion until Hamas have been killed and the Palestinians have left Gaza, they can leave but they cannot go back home.

Netanyahu will push on until every last building is rubble until we have Trumps idea of Gaza No home to go back to all the Palestinians congregated in one area in the south of Gaza.
 
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Kirkstall Blue said:


Like we said many times, it’s not about the hostages Netanyahu will bulldoze every Palestinian home into rubble.
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Can't be true, according to some on here and Facebook etc it's all untrue and We are all falling for Hamas propaganda, some even claim its just clever camera angles and there isn't any destruction...
 
We, the UK, appear to be blinkered. We think this will all go away, all the protest are false, an online conspiracy against Israel.
Well it won't. I think it was Tuesday that someone posted on here that he was in Lisbon and there was a huge March in support of Palestine.
I mentioned on Thursday they had brought Porto to a standstill.
I'm now in Lisbon and there is another huge demonstration.
It isn't going away anytime soon. The sooner we in the UK start realising that the whole of Europe has changed. Immigration and integration has changed how people view politics. The days of the Daily Telegraph telling us that white, christian values are superior have gone.
If 'we' keep attacking, physically, verbally and politically people of a different race, colour or creed then prepare for more confrontation.
 
SiMCFC said:
Can't be true, according to some on here and Facebook etc it's all untrue and We are all falling for Hamas propaganda, some even claim its just clever camera angles and there isn't any destruction...
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Unicef must be hamas propaganda:



Any of those incredibly low iq "pallywood" type weirdo's should have a look at the website by Israel Exposed that has logged the content shared on the genocide. Tens of thousands of images and videos. They are submitting them to the ICC

 
The Fat el Hombre said:
Jewish Bloc Statement on Manchester killings and its aftermath

"We are a diverse group of British Jews. Some are secular and some were in synagogues yesterday. Many have links to families and friends who will have attended Heaton Park synagogue yesterday. We will be marching again next Saturday, and will continue to take to the streets until we see an end to this genocide and until Palestine is free. We will continue to strengthen our links of solidarity and mutual support with Muslims and other communities targeted by racism. An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us."

www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk

Jewish Bloc Statement on Manchester killings and its aftermath

The Jewish Bloc has issued this statement expressing their sorrow at the killings and their condolences for the families of…
www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk
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An excellent statement. This is not Muslim against Jew.
It is decent people against war criminals.
 
“Turkish Sumud Flotilla activist Aycin Kantoglu:

At the port, we were greeted by someone who spoke good Turkish. After asking where we had come from, they asked where we were. When I asked, “Where are we?”, they said, “You’re in Israel — there’s no Gaza anymore.”

In the evening, Ben-Gvir came. They locked us in animal cages, forcing us into cramped spaces. The walls had writings in blood in Arabic; mothers had written their children’s names.

They gave no water — “drink from the toilet,” they said. We were starved for 36–40 hours.

Greta Thunberg was treated very badly.

We were also subjected to strip searches”

One of the Turkish ladies abducted and released told of her experience by the IDF
 
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SiMCFC said:
Can't be true, according to some on here and Facebook etc it's all untrue and We are all falling for Hamas propaganda, some even claim its just clever camera angles and there isn't any destruction...
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Everyone can see the destruction on the news today, Sky News ran a film of some of the devastation and it’s like nothing on earth.
I don’t understand why there is no pushback by the commentators on the news surely we should be questioning the level of demolished homes by the IDF but nothing no questions Israel can carry on with it’s demolition job of Gaza
 
robbieh said:
As we all know Netanyahu doesn't give a toss about the hostages so if Hamas had returned the hostages on day 1, Israel would still have gone ahead with the annihilation of Gaza.
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This has always been Netanyahu’s plan.

It isn’t so much about Gaza and the Palestinians to him (although he obviously does want the land), this is also as much about showing Iran Israel’s strength of force.

I can’t remember when it was exactly or what it was he exactly said but, maybe in 2018 or so, after a spate of rockets attacks by Hamas from Gaza into Israel, he said that one day Israel would retaliate with the full force of war to the point that Gaza wouldn’t exist anymore.

As well as it being about taking Gaza into Israeli land, it is as much him getting his guns out to show Iran that they aren’t to be fucked with and the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians mean nothing to him on his way to giving Iran the warning.

He’s also gone after the Houthis, Hezbollah, Al-Assad because they are all backed by Iran.

He was always just waiting for his excuse to enact this, and the terror attack on Oct7th 2023 and the hostage taking was that excuse. But if Oct7th hadn’t happened, it would have just been the next time something happened even if no hostages were taken.

Gaza and the Palestinians are also used by Iran. Iran don’t directly attack Israel themselves, they fund proxy terrorist groups to do it for them.

The Palestinians mean nothing to either side. They’re used as an example of fodder for Israel’s show of force to Iran, and are used as proxy terrorists for the Iran’s aims to destabilise Israel.

The poor Palestinians are caught in the middle of something they have no control over or say in anything with regards to either side. Even if Hamas return the hostages and surrender, even if Hamas disbanded and ceased to exist, Iran would just fund Palistinian Islamic Jihad or some other group of terrorists instead of Hamas, and Israel would keep attacking the Palestinians because they would use the terror attacks by whichever the next group of Iran backed terrorists as an excuse to destroy Gaza, and it would all just continue.

Eventually Gaza won’t exist and Israel will be bigger. But Iran will back a West Bank terror group or they’ll up their backing of Hezbollah further and it will be a Israel:Lebanon war, and hundreds of thousands of other people will be used as fodder by both sides, with even more excuse for Israel to take land elsewhere.
 
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.db. said:
This has always been Netanyahu’s plan.

It isn’t so much about Gaza and the Palestinians to him (although he obviously does want the land), this is also as much about showing Iran Israel’s strength of force.

I can’t remember when it was exactly or what it was he exactly said but, maybe in 2018 or so, after a spate of rockets attacks by Hamas from Gaza into Israel, he said that one day Israel would retaliate with the full force of war to the point that Gaza wouldn’t exist anymore.

As well as it being about taking Gaza into Israeli land, it is as much him getting his guns out to show Iran that they aren’t to be fucked with and the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians mean nothing to him on his way to giving Iran the warning.

He’s also gone after the Houthis, Hezbollah, Al-Assad because they are all backed by Iran.

He was always just waiting for his excuse to enact this, and the terror attack on Oct7th 2023 and the hostage taking was that excuse. But if Oct7th hadn’t happened, it would have just been the next time something happened even if no hostages were taken.

Gaza and the Palestinians are also used by Iran. Iran don’t directly attack Israel themselves, they fund proxy terrorist groups to do it for them.

The Palestinians mean nothing to either side. They’re used as an example of fodder for Israel’s show of force to Iran, and are used as proxy terrorists for the Iran’s aims to destabilise Israel.

The poor Palestinians are caught in the middle of something they have no control over or say in anything with regards to either side. Even if Hamas return the hostages and surrender, even if Hamas disbanded and ceased to exist, Iran would just fund Palistinian Islamic Jihad or some other group of terrorists instead of Hamas, and Israel would keep attacking the Palestinians because they would use the terror attacks by whichever the next group of Iran backed terrorists as an excuse to destroy Gaza, and it would all just continue.

Eventually Gaza won’t exist and Israel will be bigger. But Iran will back a West Bank terror group or they’ll up their backing of Hezbollah further and it will be a Israel:Lebanon war, and hundreds of thousands of other people will be used as fodder by both sides, with even more excuse for Israel to take land elsewhere.
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All very true, but maybe Israel could accept a 2 state solution*, give the land back they stole and then maybe peace could prevail and Iran could stop funding terrorist groups.

*(All unlikely I know as those in power across the globe have too much to gain from all of this going on).
 
I see the 7k a post influencers are off to a flyer ...



Talking of bad hasbara this nonsense was the subject of the latest episode of "the world's most moral podcast"

24 mins to skip the intros. ... or 47 mins for the Tiktok girl making a spirited defence of AIPAC ;-)


 
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Hamas will hand the hostages over but the Zionists will create some sort of lie so they can carry on regardless. As I have posted before Netanyahu and his crew have destroyed 70 years of credit they had built up around the world and is responsible for a global threat on Jews for years to come. Sadly because not all Jews support his actions but when restaurants from Spain to Thailand are refusing service to Jewish families on holiday - when members of the IDF are under threat of arrest for war crimes when trying to holiday outside Israel then they will find their world just got smaller.

If you look at the Right around the world - Trump in the States, Netanyahu in Israel and even the Tories/Reform here their only answers to anything results in their citizens ultimately being blocked out of or unwelcomed in the wider world.
 
Heartbreaking: His last words written just two weeks ago as he was forced to flee Gaza, read like a farewell to his soul before the bombs took him:

“Peace be upon you, Gaza.
Peace upon your streets, your mosques, your homes.
Peace upon your wounds and your strength.
Peace upon every stone that was destroyed and rebuilt, upon every generation that refused to break.

Peace upon the Omari Mosque, upon Shuja’iyya, upon your saints, your scholars, your children.
Peace upon my home built stone by stone from the labor of my father, mother, and brother.
Peace upon the five olive trees that have stood for 75 years, and the lemon tree that fed a neighborhood.
.Peace upon my memories my marriage, my children, my joy, my pain.

I left you once, Gaza, and God returned me to you.
I testify before God that I loved you with all my heart.
I entrust you to the One who never loses what is entrusted to Him.”

Dr. Abdulhamid Qaradaya

Killed by an Israeli airstrike after being displaced to the so-called “safe zone” in southern Gaza.

Another Doctor killed by the IDF in the safe zone, heartbreaking for the people of Gaza.
 
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