Middle East Conflict

Tim of the Oak said:
The thread suggests the Israeli Minister was misquoted. I don’t know if that’s the case:
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He wasn't misquoted. But it was only one bit of his remarks. It's possible that the Irish government's twitter account just used the first paragraph.

The Israelis went a bit crazy over it. "You, LeoVaradkar are trying to legitimise and normalise terror. Shame on you!”

But calling 2 million Palestinians Nazis is already normalised.



Of course, cynics might think the reaction was something to do with Irish troops in the UN peacekeeping force in Lebanon.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Thanks. I don’t believe debating with you on this issue is a worthwhile experience.

I asked a question about your random capitalisation of words in a lot of your posts and you answered.

I know now you want to be a tabloid journalist. Thanks.
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Take your ball and go home then.

It was clearly for emphasis and nothing more. No idea what garbage the “tabloid journalist” crack is, but you do you.
 
Postman Pep said:
Nope ... but there were plenty before and after Capone ..... which was the point. Also they preferred the term 'outfit' to 'mafia' .... don't be disrespecting else you might end up sleeping with the fishes :)
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I’m aware. ‘Twas all levity based on asymmetrical battles, but feels everything turns into an argument these days.
 
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Vic said:
Ah OK.

That's alright then. Carry on slaughtering.
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No, it means you don’t poke the bear, because a bear swipe can kill you!

The point of overwhelming military force is meant to be a deterrent. If a terrorist force attempts to undermine or ignore that deterrent, they do so with the understanding it will probably be brought to bear.

Everyone understands this, and I’m not sure anyone expected zero response.

Given the pretext, the question then becomes “How much is too much?” Reasonable people can differ on the answer to that question.

It feels like the return of all hostages would be a reasonable precursor to cessation, even if it is 3:1 ratio. Then, what of the murders that began the whole thing? Has that been answered? Again, reasonable people might differ.

The biggest problem in all of this is the damage being done to otherwise innocent Palestinians. Again, how many of those exist is a question open to interpretation.

No easy answers, otherwise we would all have not only heard of them repeatedly, but we would have all agreed on them.

And so it goes…
 
Was listening on the radio the amount of Palestinian children in Israeli Jails, No trials or fuck all and beaten up regularly. Quiet a lot for Fighting/Violence with the settlers who Stole their homes. Yet settlers murder Palestinians in the west bank and seem exempt from punishment. What a wonderful system they have.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
No, it means you don’t poke the bear, because a bear swipe can kill you!

The point of overwhelming military force is meant to be a deterrent. If a terrorist force attempts to undermine or ignore that deterrent, they do so with the understanding it will probably be brought to bear.

Everyone understands this, and I’m not sure anyone expected zero response.

Given the pretext, the question then becomes “How much is too much?” Reasonable people can differ on the answer to that question.

It feels like the return of all hostages would be a reasonable precursor to cessation, even if it is 3:1 ratio. Then, what of the murders that began the whole thing? Has that been answered? Again, reasonable people might differ.

The biggest problem in all of this is the damage being done to otherwise innocent Palestinians. Again, how many of those exist is a question open to interpretation.

No easy answers, otherwise we would all have not only heard of them repeatedly, but we would have all agreed on them.

And so it goes…
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Well, that's fine, except for what "began the whole thing". I watched three hours of the series "Israel and the Arabs - Elusive Peace" till the early hours (a follow up to the earlier series on what then was "the fifty years war") and October 7th was a continuation not a start. The failure of all the "road maps" to peace 25 years ago is just depressing.

www.bbc.co.uk

Israel and the Arabs - Elusive Peace - Series 1: 1. Clinton

What happened behind closed doors at the Middle East Peace Summit at Camp David in 2000 - and the reasons why the talks reached an impasse.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
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