No, your views are exactly the same as Trump, Farage and Braverman. Just different immigrants. Read what you wrote again and stop trying to deflect.
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Middle East Conflict
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How many have Israel killed so far now?
No settlements, no apartheid wall, no Zionist claim to the West Bank, no occupation, a Palestinian state instead, and Hamas would not exist. (Whether Hezbollah would is arguable, depending on whether Israel was much to do with its foundation in Lebanon.)
No guarantee of a lasting peace. But no October 7th, and no genocide in Gaza, and Israel still seen as a legitimate moral entity. (I'm still holding to that but it's getting harder.)
That was what might have been but for the idea that a homeland for the Jewish people meant displacement of the Arab population (Muslim and Christian).
As for now, I think you either want a lasting peace, or you side with Netanyahu and the right-wing extremists and create new enemies for Israel (including "Western" public opinion).
So other than Israel has to give everything up, you really have no clue if that leads to peace or any other real ideas Vic?
What would you do with Iran who are obviously bank rolling and arming its proxies against Israel and its citizens? The Islamist regime is adamant that the state of Israel can not exist at all. Do you agree with that sentiment? If not, how do you expect Israel to deal with a threat like that when that threat is actively being pursued via organisations like Hamas and Hezbollah?
Bizarre distractionI think Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman are making exactly the same points. Interesting world where one man's invaders are another man's immigrants looking for a better life away from death and oppression.
I thought you said it was a serious question.So other than Israel has to give everything up, you really have no clue if that leads to peace or any other real ideas Vic?
What would you do with Iran who are obviously bank rolling and arming its proxies against Israel and its citizens? The Islamist regime is adamant that the state of Israel can not exist at all. Do you agree with that sentiment? If not, how do you expect Israel to deal with a threat like that when that threat is actively being pursued via organisations like Hamas and Hezbollah?
Even if this is in good faith, it's bizarre. Which immigrants are coming to the UK intending to set up their own state?No, your views are exactly the same as Trump, Farage and Braverman. Just different immigrants. Read what you wrote again and stop trying to deflect.
No, your views are exactly the same as Trump, Farage and Braverman. Just different immigrants. Read what you wrote again and stop trying to deflect.
Every country in the world has immigration to a greater or lesser extent.
This is not the same as creating another country on already occupied land.
I thought you said it was a serious question.
You have no answers Vic.
Seriousness isn’t being done on this thread and never will be.
Hamas and Hezbollah need to go, as does Netanyahu and future right wing Israeli governments but so too does the Iranian regime and the Islamists in the region who will never stop wanting an end to Israel as a state.
You have no answers Vic.
Seriousness isn’t being done on this thread and never will be.
Hamas and Hezbollah need to go, as does Netanyahu and future right wing Israeli governments but so too does the Iranian regime and the Islamists in the region who will never stop wanting an end to Israel as a state.
Hamas and Hezbollah are as much as a creation of Israel as they are of Iran but I’m sure you know the history of those two groups.