Middle East Conflict

[Vic]

Impossible to discuss this Vic when you’re desperately trying to deflect and sound intelligent yet just come across as insincere.

I will leave you and others to it.

Fine. Don't respond then when I say that's a strange response to a straight answer to your question.

 

[robbieh]

Mate you're not going to get anywhere on here. This thread is about polarisation and political identity, nobody is interested in peace, it's all about hate and anger. You'll get quoted a pointless selective history lesson for the last 80 years despite the fact that basically anything about that land can be argued over the last 2000 years.

I've said on here that Hamas should surrender because that would immediately end the violence but it's amazing how barely any of those who post relentlessly every single day never agree. At the end of the day these people want this war to continue, they're the kind of nutters who supported the Yemeni Houthis bombing us. You have to really question whether they're actually bothered about the Palestinians or whether they're more bothered about maintaining resistance of all forms against Israel and the west.

Let's face it, in Gaza there will only be one winner and a prolonged war does not suit the Palestinians in any shape or form. Therefore the best thing that can happen to the Palestinians is for Hamas to surrender. If Hamas surrenders then the political and diplomatic voice for something like a two state solution grows much louder. At the moment there is never going to be talk of such a solution whilst Israel's existence is under attack.

The IRA used bombs and bullets but ultimately achieved very little through resistance however they did it anyway and that's what set them aside as a terrorist organisation. Terrorist organisations tend not to achieve peace, peace is brought by a political process that comes after the terrorism stops.

Firstly there's a huge difference in looking at recent history rather than your argument that 2000 years ago is in anyway relevant.

Secondly you inadvertently allude to the big problem. Quote 'resistance of all forms against Israel and the West'

Israel is a european plant growing in middle eastern soil. And has thus not been accepted by it's neighbours.

Thirdly I don't think 'the nutters' on here wants this tragedy to carry on any longer than you do.

 

[BayernMan]

 

[The blue phantom]

So it's fairly certain now that the Israelis are Starving a Million an Half Palestinians to wipe them out. It's just mind boggling that the world is just watching on. What pure Evil bastards they are.

 

[Vic]

Aren't you the one that used the word 'context' to justify the atrocities and war crimes committed by the Palestinians on October 7th?

Has anyone on the thread said anything to justify October 7th?

This sort of nonsense helps no-one.

 

[Postman Pep]

 

[bluethrunthru]

Imagine if you put an old clip of a WW2 SS Officer expressing those views about Warsaw on any platform on line you'd be the subject of a pile on. Question - what would the difference between the two be?

 

[Don Karleone]

Spoiler: Graphic

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

If that is real then it’s absolutely disgusting. What is it, revenge for what Germany did?

In my mind, there is very little difference.

 

[bluethrunthru]

If that is real then it’s absolutely disgusting. What is it, revenge for what Germany did?

In my mind, there is very little difference.

No - its not what Germany did its what the Nazi's did in the context you are referring to - the difference is important. But yes that is modern day echoes of what would have been said back then.