Middle East Conflict

[Blue Maverick]

The hostages are the thing that’s really looming large over this whole war/invasion/retaliation. Hamas probably won’t release any hostages for free because they want the return of what they see as Israel’s hostages.


Currently there’s 1200 Palestinians locked up in Israel being held despite not being charged with any crimes, without having a trial of any kind, and without knowing how long they will be locked up for.

Israel holds over 1,200 detainees without charge. That's the most in 3 decades, a rights group says

A rights group says that Israel is holding 1,201 detainees without charge or trial, nearly all of them Palestinians, the highest number in over three decades.

apnews.com

And those are just the ones locked up illegally. Hamas will also want to trade for some of their own fighters and leaders who are imprisoned legally - about another 3500.

I assume they’ve given the few they’ve traded for aid getting in to show they’re interested in swaps, that they’re not treating the hostages too badly and they’re still alive.

The quicker it’s resolved the better though, the longer those people are being hidden in a war zone with 30,000 Hamas militants, and a civilian population getting bombed 1000 times a day, the more likely something awful will happen.

Then when they get them all back the ground war will start

 

[bluethrunthru]

I am confused now..... are the IDF using WW2 equipment or has the capability to wage war not evolved since then? If the IDF are Broadsword is it HAMAS who are Danny Boy?

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

They actually believe the second coming of Christ is imminent and as a result Israel must stay as the holy land because the anti-christ is about to take over the world and the battle of Armagaddon will be in the Holy Lands.

Its fucking nuts mate. But shows the power they have.

And many would have you believe religion and belief in sky fairies is benign.

 

[The blue phantom]

I am confused now..... are the IDF using WW2 equipment or has the capability to wage war not evolved since then? If the IDF are Broadsword is it HAMAS who are Danny Boy?

She was a fuckin embarrassment again.

 

[Ducado]

They actually believe the second coming of Christ is imminent and as a result Israel must stay as the holy land because the anti-christ is about to take over the world and the battle of Armagaddon will be in the Holy Lands.

Its fucking nuts mate. But shows the power they have.

And the reality is the American Jewish community as whole is to the left of US politics and many have no truck with Likud and the other right wing parties

Likud and the far right use the evangelical right in the US as useful idiots, they have managed to take over GOP and have strong ties to the Tories be warned they are a danger to us all

 

[Ducado]

And many would have you believe religion and belief in sky fairies is benign.

It is, the vast majority of people go to church, synagogue, mosque or temple do no harm to anyone

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

It is, the vast majority of people go to church, synagogue, mosque or temple do no harm to anyone

These vast majority of people might not directly harm, but their support/involvement/continuance in propagating superstitious beliefs provides a very fertile breeding ground for those that do.

 

[Ducado]

These vast majority of people might not directly harm, but their support/involvement/continuance in propagating superstitious beliefs provides a very fertile breeding ground for those that do.

You could say the same for politics or even football, it’s just a human tendency to group together

 

[BlueAnorak]

They back Israel because they believe the Jews will be obliterated.
This is where we are in the world.
They are backing conflict.

They are backing Israel because Israel and all the Jews living their will be wiped out if they don't. This is highly probable and not a fanciful notion based on opinion - it is highly probable. Based on actions.
They do not want Hitler's Holocaust to be completed. it's why the US backed them since 1948 and it's why they back them today.

 

[arbabarshad]

They are backing Israel because Israel and all the Jews living their will be wiped out if they don't. They do not want Hitler's Holocaust to be completed. it's why the US backed them since 1948 and it's why they back them today.

if the US is so concerned with Jews being wiped out, why don't they give them all a home in the US? It's one of the biggest countries in the world.