Middle East Conflict

Wow..was flabbergasted by that..well bless the Israelis..at least people there have TVs,electricity and can still broadcast to the nation.
And so can Hamas when they are not busy out slaughtering civilians.
 
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I'm glad they find it funny that News agencies are questioning Bibi the fascist over reaching his war declaration mandate by murdering innocent Palestinians he's equated to all being Hamas agents.
And Hamas didn’t slaughter or kidnap any innocent civilians did they?
 
And Hamas didn’t slaughter or kidnap any innocent civilians did they?
They do.

Am i allowed to called Netanyahu the corrupt fascist he is, and condemn Hamas at the same time?

I'm making a comment on how the Israeli officials constantly attack any news organisation makes who challenges their narrative on the war.

Any challenge to their script, the interviewer or organisation are called terrorist sympathising or they throw back a strange whataboutary argument as seen on Sky News this week.
 
As I say, I’m informing myself as I go, so any of those with subjective views on the matter, can point out where I’m going wrong, from either side of the fence.
But I find myself drawn to issues I raised myself, issues I have with so called religious states to start with.

I was raised Catholic but I’m not religious and find the whole idea of state policy and foreign policy being governed by any religious belief as not only worrying but dangerous.

What I am finding that the black and white of opposing views of how the state came about and it’s subsequent history has less to do with Judaism and more to do with Zionism.

There are a lot of Jewish people in the world that do not support Zionism and see what has happened since the foundation of the state and certainly since 1967 as expansionism and this is the elephant in the room when it comes to finding a lasting peace.

Criticising anything to do with Israel is not anti-Semitism. Some of it’s biggest critics are Jews.

Listen to the argument at the end of this.


I think this Rabbi’s argument is that Zionism has bastardised Judaism and true Jewish beliefs.
I’m pretty certain you could make the same argument about Islam and Hamas.
But he addresses the elephant in the room, which I personally feel is intuitive and progressive.

I've commented on this sect and their views before. Here: https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/israel-palestine-conflict.334241/page-341

The TL:DR version is that they're an extremist sect who believe only god can gift Israel back to the Jews, which he will do when the Messiah comes. But even then, it will only be true believers like them who'll be allowed to live there.

Everyone else - you, me, everyone else on this forum - god will destroy. And that includes the Palestinians of course.
 
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