Middle East Conflict

[dublinblue12]

Cue the usual IDF tropes in response...

I don't think any secret has been made of this, the former defence minister was on TV suggesting it about 2 weeks ago

Ministry proposes moving Gaza’s civilians to north Sinai, a likely non-starter

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www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Pelegrinni]

Seriously, I have no idea what you are talking about.

Sorry.

I'm simply stating that Gaza is NOT occupied. Israel left the place since 2005.
Hamas is the elected government of Gaza.
A blockade was put in place by Egypt and Israel because of the stated aims of Hamas when they came into power in 2006. The objective of the blockade was to limit arms transfer to the region.
Prior to Hamas, there was no blockade in Gaza.

 

[Pelegrinni]

I really don't care much about history. Learning from the history of the two sides is fine as an intellectual exercise, but what matters to people's lives is the here and now. And it isn't pretty.

You should care about history.
Because as the saying goes "those who fail to learn from history are bound to repeat the same mistakes".

 

[Bradley82]

Listen to military experts debate this on Youtube. Many have stated that if a civilian infrastructure is being used for military purpose, it automatically becomes a legitimate military target.
Warning civilians to leave the facility is to confirm that they are not the primary target of any attack. Should the civilians refuse to leave, then the consequences is on them.

GENEVA CONVENTION IV

Civilian hospitals.
May in no circumstances be the object of attack but shall at all times be respected and protected by the Parties to the conflict.

You really dont have the vaguest idea of what you're banging on about.

 

[Bradley82]

You should care about history.
Because as the saying goes "those who fail to learn from history are bound to repeat the same mistakes".

The irony of your statement here is amazing.

 

[Pelegrinni]

GENEVA CONVENTION IV

Civilian hospitals.
May in no circumstances be the object of attack but shall at all times be respected and protected by the Parties to the conflict.

You really dont have the vaguest idea of what you're banging on about.

You post is correct.
However, if that hospital's function is altered later and is now being used as a military asset, then sadly, it no longer meet the definition you posted.
Same goes for schools and places of worship.

 

[Vialli98]

The numbers are provided by Hamas so it's not reliable.
They families share a responsibility for the death of the children because of their refusal to move south.
People who have moved are not burying their young children. So it is safe there until the war is over.

The type of ordinance used by Israel to date is designed to minimise civilian casualties - the bombs detonate upwards instead of sideways. See the type used by Russia in Ukraine for comparison.

In wars, people unfortunately lose their homes and sometimes, their lives. It happened in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Chechnia, etc. If you want to blame anyone, you should blame the party that started the war. Not the one retaliating for the attrocities committed against their citizens.

I’m sorry but this is insanity. It’s like you’ve chosen every single pro IDF talking point and just repeated them in here ad nauseam

 

[bluethrunthru]

For anybody 30 or above - welcome to the Middle East for the rest of your life

 

[Bradley82]

You post is correct.
However, if that hospital's function is altered later and is now being used as a military asset, then sadly, it no longer meet the definition you posted.
Same goes for schools and places of worship.

Yes my post was correct. That's because I dont post unsubstantiated rubbish and claim it as fact.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Israel’s ambassador to Britain continues to go unchallenged by our main political parties. Meanwhile a Labour MP has ban suspended by Starmer for saying a lot less. Clearly, Starmer thinks this is racism when it suits him.