Middle East Conflict

[Ribble73]

Indeed, had it been going on for such a length of time.

Israel retreated from Gaza in 2005 -since then 5 x increase in Population in 18 years -some Genocide

 

[Ducado]

Genocide is a word with quite shocking connotations, I don’t believe this is what the IDF is doing, but I do believe that there has been vengeance and collective punishment going on against innocent civilians, I believe that these maybe constitute war crimes

Although Israel left Gaza some years ago, it was treated like an open prison, Israel controlled many of the vital services going in, and what went in and what went out, eventually that the place exploded in an orgy of violence should not surprise anyone, of course Hamas are guilty of murder and atrocities and should be bought to book, but just as equally the Israeli government have as well especially on the West Bank as we speak, is anyone going to bring them to book for it?

The blame for this is two uncompromising ideologies that fail to see that this cycle of violence will go and on, until a settlement is reached, neither is Israel going to disappear or the Palestinians be shifted out, nor can Israel keep expanding the settlements and hemming in the Palestinians into small cantons, what’s Israel going to do when the Palestinian population is equal or greater to the Israeli population? Which will happen if the Palestinian birth rates continue as they are it’s a completely untenable situation

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Genocide is a word with quite shocking connotations, I don’t believe this is what the IDF is doing, but I do believe that there has been vengeance and collective punishment going on against innocent civilians, I believe that these maybe constitute war crimes

Although Israel left Gaza some years ago, it was treated like an open prison, Israel controlled many of the vital services going in, and what went in and what went out, eventually that the place exploded in an orgy of violence should not surprise anyone, of course Hamas are guilty of murder and atrocities and should be bought to book, but just as equally the Israeli government have as well especially on the West Bank as we speak, is anyone going to bring them to book for it?

The blame for this is two uncompromising ideologies that fail to see that this cycle of violence will go and on, until a settlement is reached, neither is Israel going to disappear or the Palestinians be shifted out, nor can Israel keep expanding the settlements and hemming in the Palestinians into small cantons, what’s Israel going to do when the Palestinian population is equal or greater to the Israeli population? Which will happen if the Palestinian birth rates continue as they are it’s a completely untenable situation

I can agree with this. I’m not going to get bogged down with posters debating semantics. I’ll happily withdraw whatever word that offends every person on here if it stopped people being murdered. Sorry to everyone on both sides.

Sadly it won’t and the continual and cyclical debate about syntax will continue to be more important than any form of ceasefire.

With that, I’m disappearing from the thread to allow others to debate the same things endlessly.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Also I would add that people aren’t being Murdered indiscriminately in Gaza by the IDF unlike on 7 October (when the Hysterical Hamas arseholes were posting Videos to their Relatives as they were Murdering random Jews -most of them Peacenik types who lived on the Gaza Border -who were rewarded for giving Palestinians Jobs by being invaded by these Hamas arseholes given detailed Maps by these very people so they could be slaughtered in their Beds)

Really - have you watched any of the news coverage on any of the channels?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Not really Iwo Jima is it?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Idf moved into hospital, can't find any tunnels or command centre but does find some AK47s and ammo.

Amazing that Hamas left that so conveniently to prove the Idfs claims.

What a crock of shit. Who do the IDF think they are kidding? Another shameless war crime.

 

[bluethrunthru]

So if they are not being murdered indiscriminately it must be systematically? Because something is murdering them, one or two could be said to be accidental but over 11, 000?

11K accidental discharges - who knew?

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Idf moved into hospital, can't find any tunnels or command centre but does find some AK47s and ammo.

Amazing that Hamas left that so conveniently to prove the Idfs claims.

What a crock of shit. Who do the IDF think they are kidding? Another shameless war crime.

What was the “war crime”?
What is your evidence?
I see you hooked a few. Well done!

 

[Postman Pep]

 

[Zabbasbeard]

My full Post I was on about but didn’t appear for some reason….

The War was started by Hamas -who don’t give two shits about Palestinian Civilians ( in common with the whole Arab World apart from as a Political Football -who is why they refuse to take any Refugees even though they are right next door)

This "war" didn't start on October 7th. Hamas and Netanyahu's IDF indiscriminately kill people, but the actual war has been going on for decades. The only solution is a political one where two states, Israel and Palestine co-exist, with a fair allocation of land and both recognising the others right to exist. That seems a long way away now with bloodthirsty Netanyahu and Hamas holding sway - neither are interested in peace.