Morality

this is where morals and religion intertwine

kill someone - morally wrong
kill someone in the name of god - morally right
 
pominoz said:
Mark85's brother, open your own account on here, so that we do can debate you and not think your brother is a bigger dick than he is.

.. he doesnt know about this place. Im debating with him with the full force of Bluemoon behind me.
 
Markt85 said:
pominoz said:
Mark85's brother, open your own account on here, so that we do can debate you and not think your brother is a bigger dick than he is.

.. he doesnt know about this place. Im debating with him with the full force of Bluemoon behind me.

Only joking Mark, get him to watch this.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj9oB4zpHww[/youtube]
 
Goo said:
Bigga said:
Interesting debate.

Here's my question; what is so difficult to answer about Vic's question that one has to tack religion to it?

I am not an atheist and nor am I religious, so this intrigues me that atheists cannot answer a question without defaulting to a safe ground.

Does the question have no validity? If so, explain on its own merit.


Not sure I understand you fully here, Bigga. As a atheist myself, I can draw upon perfectly good reasoning (scientific and Darwinian) as to why morals, and behavior which suggest morals, exist.

I haven't seen any evidence of a atheistic answer defaulting to a safe ground.

Also interested in your "not religious but not atheist" comment. Just to clarify I assume you're saying you're an agnostic? Everyone who isn't a believer is an agnostic in reality, but the term has problems as it suggest the agnostic is 50-50 over the existence of a God. I am 99.9 recurring per cent sure a God doesn't exist. While technically that makes me an agnostic, I use the term atheist as it gives a more accurate portrayal as to where I stand. Is this you? Or do you mean something else?

Funnily enough Markt85's Vicar brother is also 99.9 recurring per cent atheist as well. He only believes in one God of the thousands and thousands that have been created. So while he's not quite as atheistic as me, he's very very close.

Yeah.

Not what I said...
 
BimboBob said:
blueish swede said:
Markt85 said:
I am the source of my morality.....I want to kill little children

You are the source of your morality.....you want to protect little children

Who is right?
Need more information. Are the little children first born Egyptian children?
- 'Cause then it is perfectly fine to slaughter them all, isn't it?

I'm sure that was the Jews mate.

the Mayans and Olmecs before them , remains were found about ten years ago . W hen the gods were born out of nature and everything in it .
the snake -resembled that of a winding river ,and lightning
lightning -bringer of water (of life) when a storm came in

Professor William Roberson -history of America, is a good starting point

the cross to me is a symbol of the cardinal points , and the colours of the mythical ages . Each different cult has a differing interpretation of the colours and their meanings .
 
Bigga said:
Interesting debate.

Here's my question; what is so difficult to answer about Vic's question that one has to tack religion to it?

I am not an atheist and nor am I religious, so this intrigues me that atheists cannot answer a question without defaulting to a safe ground.

Does the question have no validity? If so, explain on its own merit.

I think that's the right question Bigga. Attacking religion itself is easy as i am against religion and do not believe in a higher being... but answering the morality points is still tough to do.
 
Markt85 said:
Bigga said:
Interesting debate.

Here's my question; what is so difficult to answer about Vic's question that one has to tack religion to it?

I am not an atheist and nor am I religious, so this intrigues me that atheists cannot answer a question without defaulting to a safe ground.

Does the question have no validity? If so, explain on its own merit.

I think that's the right question Bigga. Attacking religion itself is easy as i am against religion and do not believe in a higher being... but answering the morality points is still tough to do.

Why?
Do we need religion to be moral?, i would say no.
We would not have advanced as far as we have, without a sense of community and comradeship, it is as simple as that.
 

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