More student protests

johnmc said:
Halfpenny said:
I am fully aware of how this coalition works, please don't try to patronise me. At the end of the day MPs are all independent representatives. Yes they take a party whip in the majority of cases but they are still independent. Therefore they are free to vote against a bill, as they have in this case promised to. It's a shame the Lib Dems value their nice cushy Whitehall offices over their core vote, which will likely be decimated because of this. The Liberal Democrats have now lost all credibility because of this and I can see them going back to their pre-1997 levels of representation in the Commons.

First of all i wasn't try to patronise you. Not my aim at all.

My point was in the real world you might have to sacrifice some of your own views in the short term for long term gain.

What if, and it a big if, by the time the next general election come about, the recovery is well underway and clegg has shone? Libs support is likely to increase.
If there was significant economic improvement the Tories would likely get the plaudits and be returned as a majority government in 2015. The only thing we can be sure of is that the Lib Dems are going to get an absolute clubbing because even on this one issue, they've gone and done exactly what a sizeable number of their core vote elected them not to do. Pledges are serious things and if there is doubt that they would be able to stick to it (as was the indication a few weeks ago in this case) then they should not be signed. They billed themselves in many cases as the party who can keep the Tories out, with slogans like 'Labour can't win here', yet they put the tories into government and are morphing into them more every day. (not that a rainbow coalition was ever an option I accept), but coalition government is political suicide. They'd have been better off supporting a Tory minority government.
 
To the Clegg haters/voters.
You have all knowingly or not ,set young Nicholas up to be the Patsy and he's now the filling in a shit sandwich. By buying into the American TV type ' he sounds good ,he looks nice' campaign the unsures voted for him.
Now then, did none of you realise that this was definately the wrong time for a protest vote. Basically it was about two parties needing the majority vote. You voted for niether. You cannot say that now you've voted for him he's let you down, because, he never had a cat in hells chance.So if you'd assessed the situation a little better you'd be able to blame the ' Big Two' rigpht now.
Oh and by the by you're in danger of turning this country into a two party system. So think long and hard about things before a mass jerking of the knees at any future elections.
 
dell74 said:
To the Clegg haters/voters.
You have all knowingly or not ,set young Nicholas up to be the Patsy and he's now the filling in a shit sandwich. By buying into the American TV type ' he sounds good ,he looks nice' campaign the unsures voted for him.
Now then, did none of you realise that this was definately the wrong time for a protest vote. Basically it was about two parties needing the majority vote. You voted for niether. You cannot say that now you've voted for him he's let you down, because, he never had a cat in hells chance.So if you'd assessed the situation a little better you'd be able to blame the ' Big Two' rigpht now.
Oh and by the by you're in danger of turning this country into a two party system. So think long and hard about things before a mass jerking of the knees at any future elections.

What a ridiculous post. I voted for the Lib Dems not because I wanted to keep either Labour or the Tories out. I voted for the Lib Dems because I believed in alot of their policies. Don't be so patronising to assume that people voted for him because he "sounds good, looks nice". I don't think it's wrong to assume that if a party pledges to do something, they should do everything in their power to esnure that it happens.

Furthermore, after telling us we only voted for the Lib Dems as a protest because they hadn't got a chance you then claim we're the ones preserving a two party system. It's people who don't vote for the party they want rather voting to stop the party they don't that cause that ie. not those who choice to vote for an alternative party.
 
SWP's back said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
It's not that I think I'm superior to those who disagree with me. It's just frustrating being on the forefront of the human evolution and being held back by others. None of my views are radical, I refuse to be tainted by bitterness and I live by God's law.


Carry on - far be it from me to persuade you that you are making a twat of yourself.

Wouldn't bother mate, if he ever becomes a gown-up he'll realise
 
word has is the MI5 were the ones under cover destroying the police van to stir things up and promote anger towards students.
 
Cheesy said:
Blue Smarties said:
I know it'll shock you Cheesy but considering over 3,000 people were at the protest in Manchester I don't actually know the girls name so can't be doing any searches!

I just thought if a girl had been knocked unconscious & there was blood everywhere that it night have made the news a bit more.
Don't listen to the media Cheesy, you should know by now they black things out.

Here's something which I haven't seen on the news or in papers... wonder why.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgxwTF-qeAo&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
 
foxy said:
word has is the MI5 were the ones under cover destroying the police van to stir things up and promote anger towards students.

Was bollocks too many people on the para due to the g20 in toronto, students wrecked the police van half of them didn't even cover their faces.
 
Blue Smarties said:
Cheesy said:
I just thought if a girl had been knocked unconscious & there was blood everywhere that it night have made the news a bit more.
Don't listen to the media Cheesy, you should know by now they black things out.

Here's something which I haven't seen on the news or in papers... wonder why.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgxwTF-qeAo&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

The kettling technique was widely reported on mate and described as controversial. Due you not also think after the violence at the first protest may have led to the police in London (which is where that was filmed) being less nice and submissive that time?

Still nothing on the girl covered in blood in Manchester with "massive head injuries" though......
 

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