MP's 11% Pay Rise - Stop them now!!!!

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Hi,

I'm supporting Tanya’s campaign calling for David Cameron to stop the 11% pay rise for MPs.

A pay rise of this size is the salt in the wound for disadvantaged people who haven’t had a pay rise in years. Some of these people are receiving pay cuts, or worse, redundancy.

David Cameron is due to make a decision in the next few months. We need as many people as possible to sign the petition to show that the public do not support an 11% MP pay rise.

Please help and sign the petition here: <a class="postlink" href="http://chn.ge/1i1MU0P" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://chn.ge/1i1MU0P</a>

Thanks

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

With a General Election 18 months away there's no way Cameron's survival instincts would allow him to even consider this proposal for a second.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Whatever rise they get im still going to be skint and barely able to afford my bills each month

 

[CTID1988]

I give up. Im just putting the shirt of my back in a nice big envelope for the cunts. Let them have it all

 

[johnmc]

Fair play to them for getting that and good luck everyone else getting a massive pay rise themselves.

 

[mayo31]

When did Robson Green become a blue, fishing on here

 

[Rascal]

I will not be signing.

MPs should get a bigger pay rise than 11%

 

[BWTAC]

I will not be signing.

MPs should get a bigger pay rise than 11%

Too true El Presidente, those stables don't heat themselves.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I will not be signing.

MPs should get a bigger pay rise than 11%

I would have more sympathy for your assertion if they didn't have so much idle time, eye watering pension rights and redundancy payments when they lose their seats.

 

[CTID1988]

I will not be signing.

MPs should get a bigger pay rise than 11%

Too true El Presidente, those amyl nitrate soaked oranges dont pay for themselves.

 

[Skashion]

I will not be signing.

MPs should get a bigger pay rise than 11%

I understand your argument and have argued similar in the past that we need to have very lucrative pension schemes which are dramatically scaled back or cut altogether if a former MP takes a high-paying corporate job. Thinking on it though, I don't think it's enough or even right. We should not have to bribe the powerful into serving the people and powerful and influential MPs can earn more from the private sector than we can ever consider paying them. We can't bribe them into serving the people. We have to change the type of people in the system, we need effectively to rip up the party system entirely and vote not young budding politicians into power but people who've rendered a great service unto their community, I'm talking about the people that get nominated for Pride of Britain awards. Honest, good, hard to corrupt people who've already proven they care more about people than money. Then we need to change the system as well, but it starts there for me.

 

[Anonymous]

I will not be signing.

MPs should get a bigger pay rise than 11%

I would have more sympathy for your assertion if they didn't have so much idle time, eye watering pension rights and redundancy payments when they lose their seats.

And nice cushy directorships and retainers for "consultancy" services, let alone what they cream off whilst actually in office.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I will not be signing.

MPs should get a bigger pay rise than 11%

I understand your argument and have argued similar in the past that we need to have very lucrative pension schemes which are dramatically scaled back or cut altogether if a former MP takes a high-paying corporate job. Thinking on it though, I don't think it's enough or even right. We should not have to bribe the powerful into serving the people and powerful and influential MPs can earn more from the private sector than we can ever consider paying them. We can't bribe them into serving the people. We have to change the type of people in the system, we need effectively to rip up the party system entirely and vote not young budding politicians into power but people who've rendered a great service unto their community, I'm talking about the people that get nominated for Pride of Britain awards. Honest, good, hard to corrupt people who've already proven they care more about people than money. Then we need to change the system as well, but it starts there for me.

Totally agree Skash.

 

[Rascal]

I will not be signing.

MPs should get a bigger pay rise than 11%

I understand your argument and have argued similar in the past that we need to have very lucrative pension schemes which are dramatically scaled back or cut altogether if a former MP takes a high-paying corporate job. Thinking on it though, I don't think it's enough or even right. We should not have to bribe the powerful into serving the people and powerful and influential MPs can earn more from the private sector than we can ever consider paying them. We can't bribe them into serving the people. We have to change the type of people in the system, we need effectively to rip up the party system entirely and vote not young budding politicians into power but people who've rendered a great service unto their community, I'm talking about the people that get nominated for Pride of Britain awards. Honest, good, hard to corrupt people who've already proven they care more about people than money. Then we need to change the system as well, but it starts there for me.

Many good points as ever and i think the debate is begining about were politics in the UK is heading.

My big worry is that people become priced out of politics and it becomes the preserve of those who can afford to serve i.e Millionaires.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

My big worry is that people become priced out of politics and it becomes the preserve of those who can afford to serve i.e Millionaires.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

I will not be signing.

MPs should get a bigger pay rise than 11%

I understand your argument and have argued similar in the past that we need to have very lucrative pension schemes which are dramatically scaled back or cut altogether if a former MP takes a high-paying corporate job. Thinking on it though, I don't think it's enough or even right. We should not have to bribe the powerful into serving the people and powerful and influential MPs can earn more from the private sector than we can ever consider paying them. We can't bribe them into serving the people. We have to change the type of people in the system, we need effectively to rip up the party system entirely and vote not young budding politicians into power but people who've rendered a great service unto their community, I'm talking about the people that get nominated for Pride of Britain awards. Honest, good, hard to corrupt people who've already proven they care more about people than money. Then we need to change the system as well, but it starts there for me.

Totally agree Skash.

As always agreed............. but they control the rules and won't let us change the system will they?

 

[Blue Maverick]

Do you now what I say give them the rise but they are not allowed a single penny income from anything else, no directorships, consultancy anything. Let's see how many of the fuckers want the job then, Brandon Lewis is our Fire Minister the guy saying we should work until 60 pay 15% or more to our pension etc etc? This twat got for one consultancy alone £4650 for 10 hours work!! He got this 3 years on the trot plus expenses, now that's just one part of his second incomes, then this guy has the cheek to question firefighters having second jobs. They only pay 9.5% into their pensions as well, so let them match the highest public sector worker contributions as well so say again over 15% of their income! take away their expenses of getting £15 for a meal if they work past 7pm and all the other bollocks they claim.
So again give them the rise put with it take everything else away.

 

[Blue Mist]

If they hadn't been on an expenses gravy train for years, if a lot of them hadn't stolen money by fiddling there outrageous expenses, if they hadn't asked questions in return for cash, if they hadn't sold honours, if they hadn't been directors of companies whilst being an MP, if they hadn't have lined up cushy jobs for themselves by voting for the policies that favoured the company they were about to join, if they hadn't been liars, if they hadn't been jailbirds, then I might have agreed with them.

IF it was the only job they did, I would expect them to be paid a decent salary but it isn't and they are corrupt.
Tony War Criminal Blair entered Parliament with a reasonable amount of money....he left a Millionaire.

 

[mackenzie]

Cheeky self serving bastards.

 

[johnnytapia]

If they hadn't been on an expenses gravy train for years, if a lot of them hadn't stolen money by fiddling there outrageous expenses, if they hadn't asked questions in return for cash, if they hadn't sold honours, if they hadn't been directors of companies whilst being an MP, if they hadn't have lined up cushy jobs for themselves by voting for the policies that favoured the company they were about to join, if they hadn't been liars, if they hadn't been jailbirds, then I might have agreed with them.

IF it was the only job they did, I would expect them to be paid a decent salary but it isn't and they are corrupt.
Tony War Criminal Blair entered Parliament with a reasonable amount of money....he left a Millionaire.

Blue Mist - an admirable list of the nefarious ways of those that purport to be "pretty straight sort of guys". But therein lies the one, glaringly, cheek-slappingly obvious problem: we, "the people" just don't care. The expenses scandal tells you all you'll ever need to know about the disinterest in our political system. Apathy reigns. Those charlatans stole from you, me and every single citizen of these (un)fair isles. Stole millions. David Laws - current Schools Minister - loves to tell us all how much we need to instil a sense of aspiration in our children but had to walk from The Treasury when it was discovered he'd trousered over 50 grands' worth of rent through his lover. Yet, like a modern-day Lazarus, he was back in "the system" double-sharp. What did we, the public do? Lay there, supine, allowed it to blow over us, as if mesmerised and bamboozled by their Oxbridge vernacular. Instead of saying, "NO. THIEF." And the politicians know this. They prey on it.

You may hear the odd call of rebellion; a cry for fairness; a plea for MPs to "do the right thing". It may even become a groundswell (viz the march against Iraq war) but the MPs know, that ultimately "the man" is without a voice. And we ain't gonna hear him any time soon.