Spot on, and we showed in flashes against Liverpool, West brom and Sunderlans we can play. Mancini won't let them. But it's the mindset which I hate. The Mindset which was shown to the world that this club who are trying to gatecrash the elite, bidding for the world's best, are still small club mentality. Believe me, the owners wouldn't have been impressed either.Dave S said:Last night's performance was utter dross and the OP is absolutely spot on. Can anybody on here tell me/us when we have played well this season, because I haven't seen it yet. With the players we have we shouldn't be afraid of anybody, but to cower down and play like we did - at home - against Un*ted was fukcing disgraceful.
NQblue said:The OP is wrong. Gelsons Dad is right.
RM is here for the forseeable future and that may only be the season. Of course we should have won last night but we shold win every game we play. Unfortunatley that isn't going to happen.
YOu really need to understand my point as you haven't. NO we shouldn't win every game. WHat we should do is not fear poor teams.
Gelsons Dad said:And he already has. We have conceded only 10 goals this seasonK.Reeves right foot said:.....because you have repeatedly said the following:
"I am trying to change the mentality of this football club".
Tonight I sat in the South Stand and before me I witnessed 11 players playing for Manchester City who were literally paralysed by fear and devoid of any freedom to express the undoubted talents they posess.
You have drained the life out of those players with cautious and stiffling tactics. Your mission AGAIN was to 'not lose'.
In your programme notes you stated the world was watching yet you made them watch a team that resembled the minnow, grimly holding out for the lucrative replay against the bigger team. I was embarassed, bored and frankly ashamed.
We had the best chance of the game. Possession was about equal and they only had 1 more shot on target than us!
So fellow City fans, was that what you all expected when in the summer we bought the magician Silva? The powerhouse Yaya? The dynamic Milner who ran Villas side on his own and scored many goals?
I expected another season of rebuilding. You can buy players but you need to build a team
You have failed to manage your own expectations to realistic levels.Our own club has raised our levels of expectations to new heights yet we watch dross.
Mancini AGAIN bottled it. He played the media institution that is the scum. He played Charlton, Best, Cantona and all the other ingredients which make up that lot. He should have played Park, Fletcher, berbatov and co. Let's make no mistake, the Scum are NOT a good side anymore. Last season in the semi's they were not a good side. Yet City like most other teams have lost the game before the first minute. Oh, sorry, yes, we got a 0-0 draw. Well done Mr Mancini. Well done for sending out a side devoid of any attacking intentions. Tonight we were again little city, the small team in fear of the big bad opposition. It was pathetic.
You haven't noticed this media institution is unbeaten this season
Those who are satisfied with a draw have NO expectations and must be frozen in a time warp of zero expectation. I had no expectation for 25 years and was never promised any so i didn't moan. Now we are promised the world. We are told we are on the level of The Scum now, deserve to be favourites, yet we make substitutions in the 92nd minute to eat away time, and slope off with a point.
Or we're not spoilt new money brats who demand everything now!
Yes I'm annoyed. We have had average sides before which actually put 3, 4 or even 5 goals past The Scum, now we have the best team ever, they have one of their poorest and we scrape a 0-0 draw, the irony is stunning.
Nonsense. They are unbeaten, our team barely know each other.
I never wanted this guy. I certainly didn't want him retained this season. I bit my tongue, voiced my concern on here but always TRIED to understand something bigger, that Mancini MUST know something I couldn't see. Tonight he utterly ratified my original opinion from last season. He is too scared to take a chance.
So you admit you made your mind up last season before he had time to put his stamp on the team.
I waited a few hours, didn't want to react straight away, but tonight was such a bitter dissapointment.
You should have waited a few more. Or better still keep your tripe to yourself.
So all you lot who are jumping up and down cheering because we held the mighty Darren Fletcher and co to a 0-0 draw, congratulations. You must be happy. You are probably the same ones who were smiling as they left the ground after winning 2-1 in last seasons 1st leg, although the cluued up fans knew it was a wasted opportunity.
For me, the only team which threatened to score onight was the scum. Not us. The home side. They didn't create much of note but I always had a feeling they just might. Never had that with us.
Mr Mancini, another opportunity gone.
YOu said you wanted to change our mentality, well I believe you have. before we were just inconsistent City, scoring many, conceeding many, usually crap but never dull.
Now we are just dull, lifeless and sterile. You certianly changed it Mr Mancini.
Shame he can't change some of the idiot fans.
I imagine if you ask a scum fan if hey are a decent side they will say no. Unbeaten yes, but not winning many and not playing well. But if your standards are purely dictated by what they do then we will never progress. I purely see 11 players as opposition and for me a half decent side would have taken them to the cleaners and every scum fan i know has even admitted that themselves.The Blue Bas***d said:K.Reeves right foot said:OK - ill reply to a few points, No i was n't composing it I was sat in a curry house in Rusholme eating a hot Madras.! Your point about a side evolving over 2 decades is not important, they were without their main hitter, half the team was recovering form a virus, their first 11 is poor yet we still FEARED them That is the problem. Mancini states he's trying to change the mentality. How? by scraping a 0-0 draw? Players like Tevez Yay Silva Boateng Kolarov have the mindset of winners, that's why we bought them. Mancini is reversing that.
Dont think that is a very clever comment seeing as they are unbeaten in all comps for 24 games
MCFC BOB said:What's funny is that if Zabaleta had scored that chance at the end this thread would never have been made.
It takes time to build a team, not three years. Mancini hasn't even been incharge a year and he's only just been allowed to use his full team. In the games where he could have used his team fully fit and fully available we've managed to pick up 4 points in two very difficult games.
Knee-jerk or what?
Ermmmm that's the point I was making....schfc6 said:SWP's back said:Ho hum, I made an error and put something twice. What a **** I am. You also didn't think it was a good performance as we didn't have enough shots (with 10 men against the 2nd best passing team in Europe) - that about sums you up for me.
But we aren't 19 games in are we? The league team is not the same as the cup team and for obvious reasons which will show come the new year. Also, even if it was 19 games, you really think that is long enough to get a team playing settled football. Look how long the other top squads have been together.
Look - I can't be arsed arguing with you. It is fans like you, if anything, that will stop city ever acheiving. Constantly wanting to change a manager like a stroppy teenager and without the forthought to realise that patience is needed. You can't see how we are vastly improved on this time last year? Get a fucking grip.
SWP's back obviously you like SWP, that sums you up.
19 games to gel is enough????????
Kolarov & Balotelli have played less than 200 minutes between them, Boatend has only been back a month or so, so that's 3 of Mancini's signings that are yet to be part of an established side.
Mancini has also said he plans no more major transfer activity, just tinkering with current squad.
Are you suggesting that a side should gel in 10 weeks with 2 full international breaks, if so take your support and give it someone else!
My guess is you are a red top reading, believe all the media hype(bullsh!te) dreamer who's spouted your mouth off to all your united fan mates at school and you are feeling a little embarrassed!
But would you rather win the league playing boring football, or finish 10th because you played such open football that ended in 3-3 results all season?simon23 said:MCFC BOB said:What's funny is that if Zabaleta had scored that chance at the end this thread would never have been made.
It takes time to build a team, not three years. Mancini hasn't even been incharge a year and he's only just been allowed to use his full team. In the games where he could have used his team fully fit and fully available we've managed to pick up 4 points in two very difficult games.
Knee-jerk or what?
sorry i disagree...
numerous people on here (myslef included) recognise that winning isnt the be all and end all. I will continue to criticise his tactical approach win lose or draw while he carries on playing in a negative fashion....there have been few games since RM took over where i have been impressed by the way we are playing (west brom was one of those)