Muffin or Barm

[Blue Tooth]

Purple uniform I give you but Manchester in the 70's was all Muffins mate. The word Barm would later migrate from across the Pennines from such distinguished locations as Barnsley and Donaster. Anyone who says Barm is a Tyke lovin twat.

 

[nelsons willie]

Purple uniform I give you but Manchester in the 70's was all Muffins mate. The word Barm would later migrate from across the Pennines from such distinguished locations as Barnsley and Donaster. Anyone who says Barm is a Tyke lovin twat.

sorry bt i should have pointed out that we were eating our chip muffins at the time. Damn the comprehensive system. Also used to have meat and tater pies stuck inside a muffin.

 

[Wilf Wild 1937]

Ask and you shall receive.

A barm cake is a type of bun with flour on top. It has a characteristically strong flavour that comes from the traditional barm leaven made from a natural leaven with the addition of hops. However, the Barm Cake is more likely made from commercial yeast today.[citation needed]

The original barm cake is found in areas of Lancashire, North West England. In wider northern England, a similar bread roll would be known instead as a "breadbun", "breadcake", "bap", "cob" (a Midlands term), "teacake" (West Yorkshire/some parts of Cumbria; without currants or currant teacake with currants) or even (in the enlarged form of Tyneside) a "stotty".

Chips are a popular filling, sold in most fish and chip shops in the North West of England often called simply a 'chip barm'.[1] Another popular filling in the North West, particularly Bolton, is the pasty barm.[2] Likewise in Wigan pies are a popular filling

So, admittance at last, these things that you describe don't have flour on top. As they are no longer made from barm leaven it's a yeast bread. So therefore whatever these barm cakes were are no longer made commercially, you are therefore usually buying muffins.

What you say about flour on top is without doubt the true barm cake. Any form of large round bread bun is typically, though
strictly speaking wrongly, now described as a "barm cake" in many parts of the north west. "Barm" is now used as a generic term.
Muffin although probably the correct term is ambiguous being either sweet or savoury. I'd feel a twat if I ordered a chip muffin
where I live (Cheadle) because I know most people around here look at it as predominantly a "sweet" for example a "blueberry muffin".
If I ordered a chip barm everybody would know what I meant. It all comes down to where you live.

#Itsabarmyoudaftsods

 

[mancityvstoke]

Ask and you shall receive.

A barm cake is a type of bun with flour on top. It has a characteristically strong flavour that comes from the traditional barm leaven made from a natural leaven with the addition of hops. However, the Barm Cake is more likely made from commercial yeast today.[citation needed]

The original barm cake is found in areas of Lancashire, North West England. In wider northern England, a similar bread roll would be known instead as a "breadbun", "breadcake", "bap", "cob" (a Midlands term), "teacake" (West Yorkshire/some parts of Cumbria; without currants or currant teacake with currants) or even (in the enlarged form of Tyneside) a "stotty".

Chips are a popular filling, sold in most fish and chip shops in the North West of England often called simply a 'chip barm'.[1] Another popular filling in the North West, particularly Bolton, is the pasty barm.[2] Likewise in Wigan pies are a popular filling

So, admittance at last, these things that you describe don't have flour on top. As they are no longer made from barm leaven it's a yeast bread. So therefore whatever these barm cakes were are no longer made commercially, you are therefore usually buying muffins.

What you say about flour on top is without doubt the true barm cake. Any form of large round bread bun is typically, though
strictly speaking wrongly, now described as a "barm cake" in many parts of the north west. "Barm" is now used as a generic term.
Muffin although probably the correct term is ambiguous being either sweet or savoury. I'd feel a twat if I ordered a chip muffin
where I live (Cheadle) because I know most people around here look at it as predominantly a "sweet" for example a "blueberry muffin".
If I ordered a chip barm everybody would know what I meant. It all comes down to where you live.

#Itsabarmyoudaftsods

another schoolboy error.

Americanisation........... This is the UK.

CHIP MUFFIN in Manchester.............Stockport isn't in Manchester either.

 

[Wilf Wild 1937]

CHIP MUFFIN in Manchester.............Stockport isn't in Manchester either.

More City season ticket holders from Stockport than Manchester accordingly to the club's own figures.
It's a CHIP BARM.

 

[Dribble]

Let's all agree to disagree and call them 'one of those round bread fings' like we did round our way when I was growing up...... It saves the argument! :-)

 

[Wilf Wild 1937]

Let's all agree to disagree and call them 'one of those round bread fings' like we did round our way when I was growing up...... It saves the argument! :-)

LOL

I think most posters don't really care one way or the other ... but they love the argument.
Far better for folk to argue about this bollocks rather than getting all overheated on the main forum
with the serious stuff that's going on this weekend!

It's still a barm by the way.

 

[Blue Tooth]

Purple uniform I give you but Manchester in the 70's was all Muffins mate. The word Barm would later migrate from across the Pennines from such distinguished locations as Barnsley and Donaster. Anyone who says Barm is a Tyke lovin twat.

sorry bt i should have pointed out that we were eating our chip muffins at the time. Damn the comprehensive system. Also used to have meat and tater pies stuck inside a muffin.

You should have gone to a purple blazer wearing grammar school like wot I did then ;)
MUFFIN

 

[Blue Mist]

The downside of the success we are currently enjoying is that it has attracted a lot of croissant eating vol-au-vent munching briefcase carrying ex grammar school boys.When i meet my mate every month or so for a piss up we still laugh about the day we wagged school to watch city in the 70's. The very day some spotty kid in a stripey hat and neatly pressed purple uniform asked us where we had got our chip barms from at half time. We couldnt believe he was wearing a uniform never mind fucking purple.

Was this young man Ginger by any chance ? If so it could be Corky, I would pm him if I were you to ask.

 

[Second Skin]

Can we call an end to this thread now: