Muller blasts Manchester City's Sergio Aguero and Edin Dzeko

Maldeika said:
Balti said:
Maldeika said:
Maybe some would post if you would not try to harrass them...

There is no basis for a discussion here. That is why I did not write. It is two different perspectives - and I will not find friends right now with mine. For the one team it is a big win - for the other team it is a loss that did not matter as it did not change anything. For it to matter another goal was missing. Like this it was pretty meaningless to Bayern. Every other match this year would have hurt more even if nobody likes to loose.

Just look at the answers in this thread caused by a sentence in a big interview in October and what Daily Fail makes out of it - and what some people here believe.

yes you're right it was meaningless for City and changed nothing

Actually it did not, or? Before you have been on rank 2 in the group - afterwards you were on rank 2 in the group. I know that your players might have gotten a lot of self confidence out of the match - you won on German ground and it was against the CL winner - but you might understand that it did not really bother a team that has won all but 2 matches this seasons - lost this matches mainly because of taking the foot of the gas and individual mistankes - and even out of the lost matches still has gotten the best "worst-case-scenario" - like if you have a headache after a night with a lot of alcohol but you still wake up in your bed and not in the drunk tank of the next police station. It would be different if City would have scored another goal - but without that goal things stayed the same.

It's a lovely analogy, and whilst the result didn't ultimately affect the group I don't think it was as irrelevant as you suggest.
 
Maldeika said:
Balti said:
Maldeika said:
Maybe some would post if you would not try to harrass them...

There is no basis for a discussion here. That is why I did not write. It is two different perspectives - and I will not find friends right now with mine. For the one team it is a big win - for the other team it is a loss that did not matter as it did not change anything. For it to matter another goal was missing. Like this it was pretty meaningless to Bayern. Every other match this year would have hurt more even if nobody likes to loose.

Just look at the answers in this thread caused by a sentence in a big interview in October and what Daily Fail makes out of it - and what some people here believe.

yes you're right it was meaningless for City and changed nothing

Actually it did not, or? Before you have been on rank 2 in the group - afterwards you were on rank 2 in the group. I know that your players might have gotten a lot of self confidence out of the match - you won on German ground and it was against the CL winner - but you might understand that it did not really bother a team that has won all but 2 matches this seasons - lost this matches mainly because of taking the foot of the gas and individual mistankes - and even out of the lost matches still has gotten the best "worst-case-scenario" - like if you have a headache after a night with a lot of alcohol but you still wake up in your bed and not in the drunk tank of the next police station. It would be different if City would have scored another goal - but without that goal things stayed the same.

They turned up with their first team, why would they do that to play our reserves if the game didn't matter? Don't kid yourself that it means / meant nothing to Bayern who know very well that they topped the group by the width of the keeper's shin, because that's all that stopped the beast from scoring a 4th.
 
Listerfiend said:
Maldeika said:
Balti said:
yes you're right it was meaningless for City and changed nothing

Actually it did not, or? Before you have been on rank 2 in the group - afterwards you were on rank 2 in the group. I know that your players might have gotten a lot of self confidence out of the match - you won on German ground and it was against the CL winner - but you might understand that it did not really bother a team that has won all but 2 matches this seasons - lost this matches mainly because of taking the foot of the gas and individual mistankes - and even out of the lost matches still has gotten the best "worst-case-scenario" - like if you have a headache after a night with a lot of alcohol but you still wake up in your bed and not in the drunk tank of the next police station. It would be different if City would have scored another goal - but without that goal things stayed the same.

They turned up with their first team, why would they do that to play our reserves if the game didn't matter? Don't kid yourself that it means / meant nothing to Bayern who know very well that they topped the group by the width of the keeper's shin, because that's all that stopped the beast from scoring a 4th.

Sure they turned up with their best available team. And they certainly did not go into the match with the thinking - we will be satisfied with a 1:3 at the end. They wanted to win. But that was before the match. They went up 2:0 and then they thought they could play the rest of the match with less energy and less workrate. And that just did not work. The loss for sure was a lesson for them - that (especially if you do not have a Schweinsteiger on board or a fit Martinez) you cannot go through this matches on half power.

But - we are not talking about the beginning - or about the run of the match - but about the end of the match or the result of it. And that is the result of it. That all on Bayern's side like wins a lot more than losses - yes, they do. But this loss was nothing that hurt and there even were a lot that thought that it was good to loose the match as a loss somewhen hat to follow again and better like this than in a match that really matters.
 
They turned up with their first team, why would they do that to play our reserves if the game didn't matter? Don't kid yourself that it means / meant nothing to Bayern who know very well that they topped the group by the width of the keeper's shin, because that's all that stopped the beast from scoring a 4th.[/quote]


I have to agree with this. No team wants to let a record run come to an end. This was far from meaningless for Bayern.

Perhaps more importantly it will help City purge the 1-3 and give us the major psychological boost we needed to make the step up from pretenders to European f***ing Royalty!
 
BlueSiam said:
They turned up with their first team, why would they do that to play our reserves if the game didn't matter? Don't kid yourself that it means / meant nothing to Bayern who know very well that they topped the group by the width of the keeper's shin, because that's all that stopped the beast from scoring a 4th.


I have to agree with this. No team wants to let a record run come to an end. This was far from meaningless for Bayern.

Perhaps more importantly it will help City purge the 1-3 and give us the major psychological boost we needed to make the step up from pretenders to European f***ing Royalty![/quote]

Win titles and are not satisfied with the small wins... - and do that for a long period.

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Actually that young man you call words in this thread is told to be a present from heaven by the psychologist of the FA because of his character, mentality and humility - like everybody else around him. Could it somehow be that they know it better than some persons who believe anything the Daily Fail writes??? We fans love him because everybody around him always seems to smile and be in good mood. Team spirit and chemistry is very important if you want to win things.
 

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