New PL financial controls | Clubs agree squad spending cap 'in principle'

[supercity88]

rags are shafted then

Which is where my positivity is coming from on this, and why they voted against it. We've got a "bring it on" attitude, where we don't care if it enables our rivals to spend more we want the opportunity to continue to grow the club and become richer and richer and have the ability to spend more as a result. So it's competition related. Villa obviously are on the up too and probably have plans to spend more, grow revenues more and don't want to be stifled by a different system at this time in their ascendency.

Chelsea are fucked either way so just sitting back and seeing what happens.

There's a long way to go still. If the research comes back and suggests a threat to the financial growth of clubs then the majority will oppose it.

We saw with FFP how clubs went along with it, thinking it would preserve their position in the prem and actually in hindsight they'd have gone against it. Everton being a prime example.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I suppose it depends what the point of the rules is: if it is really about increasing competition in the PL, I really don't see a point in anchoring squad spend. The PL wants to increase competition, let clubs spend what they want as long as it isn't debt based and there is some proactive control over equity investment and community assets. The top clubs are hamstrung by the UEFA FFP anyway, so what is the point of the 85% rule if you want "smaller" clubs to catch up?

It seems to me there is no strong strategic guidance from the PL and the rules lurch from one idea to another without any firm principle based on what a few clubs feel strongly about. Let's hear what the PL actually want to achieve and then we can judge the new rules. It's all a bit camel/horse at the minute: they want the league to be more competitive but they don't want the smaller clubs to be able to challenge. So what is the fucking point? Typical Masters bullshit.

This is exactly the point. You have to start with the 'What', which is the objective you're trying to achieve. Then you work out the 'How'. But it seems the PL really doesn't understand what it's trying to achieve.

 

[Asa's left peg]

Does this mean that, over time clubs like Real are able to spend more to entice players as it doesn't matter what UEFA's rules are as, primarily, PL is the bed and butter rules we need to adhere to (accepting that CL rule is higher atm)?
What I'm saying is, if Real have a bigger revenue and are able to spend 85% of it, surely they can spend more? If true this would lead to an erosion of top talent in PL clubs.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Is there any sports where it has worked with spending controls making the competition more even? Formula one has introduced a cost cap which has teams like Sauber having a similar budget to Mercedes to develop their cars. Sounds good in principle but in practice Red Bull are dominating the field. Where maybe pre 2021 Mercedes and Ferrari could have thrown money at it to catch up, they can’t and have to wait till new car regulations coming into place in 2026 to see if it shakes up the order in any way.

If it wasn't for spending controls then NFL & MLB twould be dominated by Dallas Cowboys and New York Yankees respectively, both of whom have the biggest revenues in those sports.

 

[Koniec]

If it wasn't for spending controls then NFL & MLB twould be dominated by Dallas Cowboys and New York Yankees respectively, both of whom have the biggest revenues in those sports.

Not to mention the worst team gets the pick of the best players to keep it competitive and equal income from Tv. It’s all very socialist. Wouldn’t work in football though.

 

[hammocity]

The Premier League has built a fantastic product, the Hateful 8 were smarting at us being top dogs. They’ve tried everything to stop us, now, in desperation they’re using their last joker card.

They’re prepared to make these changes and sacrifice the League’s success just to stop us. The fact we voted against these changes should tell everyone all they need to know, the best run club in all the world 100% know why these changes are being mooted.

Once the League is fucked, they’ll go back on these changes and introduce different rules, hopefully we stand our ground.

It’s so obvious, even Stevie Wonder would see what’s happening here.

 

[Mancini’s Pastilles]

Are the PL really that out of touch? Theyd sabotage their own league. With this spending cap. A European team will be able to offer a player and club more in terms of fee and wages. Which in turn weakens the PL as players will chose other leagues

 

[Roachy]

Which is where my positivity is coming from on this, and why they voted against it. We've got a "bring it on" attitude, where we don't care if it enables our rivals to spend more we want the opportunity to continue to grow the club and become richer and richer and have the ability to spend more as a result. So it's competition related. Villa obviously are on the up too and probably have plans to spend more, grow revenues more and don't want to be stifled by a different system at this time in their ascendency.

Chelsea are fucked either way so just sitting back and seeing what happens.

There's a long way to go still. If the research comes back and suggests a threat to the financial growth of clubs then the majority will oppose it.

We saw with FFP how clubs went along with it, thinking it would preserve their position in the prem and actually in hindsight they'd have gone against it. Everton being a prime example.

It seems that whichever set of rules are implemented, City are best placed to deal with them in the long run. The other thing that stands out is the short sighted nature of these regulations, and any others for that matter, seem to limit the development potential of most of the clubs that are voting for them. It's almost like self inflicted collateral damage, unless I'm looking at this from the wrong angle. Therefore the only other option to restrict a specific club is a besmirchment campaign, like the one we are witnessing against our club now with alleged PL breaches.

 

[supercity88]

It seems that whichever set of rules are implemented, City are best placed to deal with them in the long run. The other thing that stands out is the short sighted nature of these regulations, and any others for that matter, seem to limit the development potential of most of the clubs that are voting for them. It's almost like self inflicted collateral damage, unless I'm looking at this from the wrong angle. Therefore the only other option to restrict a specific club is a besmirchment campaign, like the one we are witnessing against our club now with alleged PL breaches.

There's a lot of pressure from external sources - the EFL, the political sphere etc for the PL to better regulate clubs and their spending. The idea initially was to prevent clubs going bust, but that was just a cover for essentially protecting the historic elite. Now it's all an obsession over profit and loss but doesn't perhaps provide enough mitigation for clubs going up and down the leagues or having external issues and it's creating uncertainty over the actual league table and what it might look like once punishments/appeals have been dealt with.

You've got the wider pyramid struggling to make ends meet whilst the PL clubs, particularly at the top, are pulling further and further away.

The caps elsewhere in Europe and with UEFA are stricter so the PL shouldn't decline. But it depends whether the product remains as attractive. If things are impacted and revenues drop so will the amount the clubs can spend and it will lead to a decline in the future. Right now that's not a risk, but we'll see how long it lasts.

In rugby it's not had any benefit. You've even got English players who sacrifice an international career to go and make money abroad. Similarly with cricket. Again, not a risk currently in England but again perhaps in the future.

 

[Stoned Rose]

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