Newcastle United (A) - Sun 21 Aug, 16:30 | Pre-Match Thread

[Mancity1980]

Well City it's down to us now, win and we're back on top

City first, city B team second.

 

[BringBackSwales]

This could be a long post so I’ll apologise before starting and I’ll not be checking it for typos. I’ve seen a few posts in this thread so have tried to cover points which I’ve picked up on.

As a Newcastle fan, I don't know what to expect from us tomorrow. Trippier and Wilson have hardly played football in 2022 and haven't got match sharpness yet and will only get that through playing football. They'll click at some point in the future, today may be too soon.

I expect that we'll play 4-3-3 but also mix it up a bit when we have to, we’ll probably only start with of the players who started in May when we last played. I don't think we'll win so today is about seeing how far we've come but maybe the third game of the season is too early even for that, it could take 8 or 10 games into the season for us to find that out.

We have a good keeper and a good defence but even our good defence has weaknesses. Burn is solid with his left foot as long as players don't go on his inside as his right foot is for standing on only. He's tall so can get his head on the ball, the only problem is that the ball can go anywhere. Sven Botman has huge potential but he's only played one full game to has a lot to learn. I think we'll see the best of him after the World Cup break as he'll have settled in by then.

Midfield is reasonably strong, not Man City strong but will do well against most teams. Bruno has the potential to be world class and will shine with better players in the team. He was outstanding against Forest but we unfortunately have Almiron feeding off his through balls and Almiron isn't clinical enough. He will run around all day, closing players down and providing an outlet, unfortunately, he'll score 3 or 4 goals a season. Joelinton is excellent in midfield, our most improved player under Howe. He will possibly cover more ground than anybody on the pitch and will never give up. Willock will cover ground and will get stuck in, he can also pop up and get goals but I think he'll be a bit too busy to get forward too much.

My only hope is that we play well and prove that we're making progress, regardless of the result. I think Howe will want the 3 points but it will take a massive performance for that to happen and we don't have the quality for that yet.

Howe is doing a fantastic job, better than any of us could have expected. The reason he's doing well is that he's a good manager and he also loves football. Our best managers have always loved football and aren't worried about the job. Howe probably has 99% of the fans on his side and he's probably as popular as Keegan and Sir Bobby which shows how well he's done. I think he could be with us for a very long time and will surprise a lot of people as he leaves nothing to chance. He's a workaholic who misses nothing and he’ll hopefully get what he deserves, that will take time.

We have a new sleeve sponsor who have paid more for a small square on the sleeve than our main shirt sponsor, the shirt sponsor ends at the end of this season so we will bring in considerably more money going forward which we can then spend on quality players. Ashley has left the club with virtually no commercial income which will change and allow us to spend more that we currently can.

We have a team which can now hold its own in the division without fearing relegation so we no longer need to go out and spend on half of the team so we should be able to put more money into fewer players bringing quality in over quantity. We are probably 3 quality players from being able to say we’ll finish top 6 with any confidence and probably a quality forward from being able to say we’ll finish top 8 with any degree of confidence but that doesn’t mean that either couldn’t happen if everything went our way.

We haven’t spent a fortune yet and that’s because we can’t without boxing ourselves in with FFP. We still have money to spend but we don’t want it to all go in one year when FFP is averaged over three. We need to see how we get on and use transfer windows to make tweaks. We could still bring in a couple of more players in this window, we could also bring in nobody else and wait until the winter window.

It's going to take us years to get into the top 4 s everybody is improving. I think we’re miles away from you, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs, the others not so much and not playing in Europe could give us a little edge on some teams as all of our focus is domestic.

I think the ground will be bouncing tomorrow but could go quiet if our backs are to the wall. We could come at you from the off or we could be a bit more cautious, it’s really hard to tell with it being so early in the season to work out how we’re going to play.

If any of you are coming to the game, you can drink in any pubs, we don’t have away pubs and none are off limits unlike at most grounds. Newcastle has changed over the years for the better and everybody is welcome as long as they behave.

Good luck tomorrow, just not too much of it and I will be delighted if we can get a point from this game as that will show huge progress for us.

Good post pal. I am up there today with my 2 lads, not expecting an easy game in the slightest. First game up there was 1977, in the fa cup, violent as fuck it was. Agree it is really civilised in the pubs in the city centre these days, that aspect of football has changed for the better - currently making butties for my kids, how times have changed. Apart from the 2 games against us I hope you do well, good club with loyal support

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Would rate current Newcastle alongside West Ham , the West Ham game was forecast to be a difficult game and we won in a canter , if we get an early goal we will pass the Gordies to death.
Some pundits reckon we have had an easy start to the season , but i dont think even the Dippers would view West Ham and Newcastle away as easy fixtures, three points today would be an excellent start to the season with two tricky away games completed.
Win and a clean sheet is all we can ask for considering we have a habit of being slow starters.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

I'm sure this McDonald's breakfast will help getting through that turnstile this year........not
Looking forward to seeing they other athletes gasping for air at the top of the stairs :+)

 

[andyhinch]

I'm sure this McDonald's breakfast will help getting through that turnstile this year........not
Looking forward to seeing they other athletes gasping for air at the top of the stairs :+)

I’ve just had a full English in the hotel for extra fuel :-)

 

[inthenextlife]

I'm going to the pub tomorrow night to watch Rags' game with a few Newcastle fans so anything but a win today will be insufferable!

 

[If I die in the Kippax St]

Crete :-)

Ha ha was thinking I’ve never heard of a bar in Newcastle called Crete

 

[GOULDYBOBS]

This could be a long post so I’ll apologise before starting and I’ll not be checking it for typos. I’ve seen a few posts in this thread so have tried to cover points which I’ve picked up on.

As a Newcastle fan, I don't know what to expect from us tomorrow. Trippier and Wilson have hardly played football in 2022 and haven't got match sharpness yet and will only get that through playing football. They'll click at some point in the future, today may be too soon.

I expect that we'll play 4-3-3 but also mix it up a bit when we have to, we’ll probably only start with of the players who started in May when we last played. I don't think we'll win so today is about seeing how far we've come but maybe the third game of the season is too early even for that, it could take 8 or 10 games into the season for us to find that out.

We have a good keeper and a good defence but even our good defence has weaknesses. Burn is solid with his left foot as long as players don't go on his inside as his right foot is for standing on only. He's tall so can get his head on the ball, the only problem is that the ball can go anywhere. Sven Botman has huge potential but he's only played one full game to has a lot to learn. I think we'll see the best of him after the World Cup break as he'll have settled in by then.

Midfield is reasonably strong, not Man City strong but will do well against most teams. Bruno has the potential to be world class and will shine with better players in the team. He was outstanding against Forest but we unfortunately have Almiron feeding off his through balls and Almiron isn't clinical enough. He will run around all day, closing players down and providing an outlet, unfortunately, he'll score 3 or 4 goals a season. Joelinton is excellent in midfield, our most improved player under Howe. He will possibly cover more ground than anybody on the pitch and will never give up. Willock will cover ground and will get stuck in, he can also pop up and get goals but I think he'll be a bit too busy to get forward too much.

My only hope is that we play well and prove that we're making progress, regardless of the result. I think Howe will want the 3 points but it will take a massive performance for that to happen and we don't have the quality for that yet.

Howe is doing a fantastic job, better than any of us could have expected. The reason he's doing well is that he's a good manager and he also loves football. Our best managers have always loved football and aren't worried about the job. Howe probably has 99% of the fans on his side and he's probably as popular as Keegan and Sir Bobby which shows how well he's done. I think he could be with us for a very long time and will surprise a lot of people as he leaves nothing to chance. He's a workaholic who misses nothing and he’ll hopefully get what he deserves, that will take time.

We have a new sleeve sponsor who have paid more for a small square on the sleeve than our main shirt sponsor, the shirt sponsor ends at the end of this season so we will bring in considerably more money going forward which we can then spend on quality players. Ashley has left the club with virtually no commercial income which will change and allow us to spend more that we currently can.

We have a team which can now hold its own in the division without fearing relegation so we no longer need to go out and spend on half of the team so we should be able to put more money into fewer players bringing quality in over quantity. We are probably 3 quality players from being able to say we’ll finish top 6 with any confidence and probably a quality forward from being able to say we’ll finish top 8 with any degree of confidence but that doesn’t mean that either couldn’t happen if everything went our way.

We haven’t spent a fortune yet and that’s because we can’t without boxing ourselves in with FFP. We still have money to spend but we don’t want it to all go in one year when FFP is averaged over three. We need to see how we get on and use transfer windows to make tweaks. We could still bring in a couple of more players in this window, we could also bring in nobody else and wait until the winter window.

It's going to take us years to get into the top 4 s everybody is improving. I think we’re miles away from you, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs, the others not so much and not playing in Europe could give us a little edge on some teams as all of our focus is domestic.

I think the ground will be bouncing tomorrow but could go quiet if our backs are to the wall. We could come at you from the off or we could be a bit more cautious, it’s really hard to tell with it being so early in the season to work out how we’re going to play.

If any of you are coming to the game, you can drink in any pubs, we don’t have away pubs and none are off limits unlike at most grounds. Newcastle has changed over the years for the better and everybody is welcome as long as they behave.

Good luck tomorrow, just not too much of it and I will be delighted if we can get a point from this game as that will show huge progress for us.

Great Post mate and enjoy the match. Always loved a trip to Newcastle. Great city and people. All the best apart from with todays result

 

[Franny 1234]

I'm sure this McDonald's breakfast will help getting through that turnstile this year........not
Looking forward to seeing they other athletes gasping for air at the top of the stairs :+)

Oxygen tank required CTID

 

[Petetheblu]

This could be a long post so I’ll apologise before starting and I’ll not be checking it for typos. I’ve seen a few posts in this thread so have tried to cover points which I’ve picked up on.

As a Newcastle fan, I don't know what to expect from us tomorrow. Trippier and Wilson have hardly played football in 2022 and haven't got match sharpness yet and will only get that through playing football. They'll click at some point in the future, today may be too soon.

I expect that we'll play 4-3-3 but also mix it up a bit when we have to, we’ll probably only start with of the players who started in May when we last played. I don't think we'll win so today is about seeing how far we've come but maybe the third game of the season is too early even for that, it could take 8 or 10 games into the season for us to find that out.

We have a good keeper and a good defence but even our good defence has weaknesses. Burn is solid with his left foot as long as players don't go on his inside as his right foot is for standing on only. He's tall so can get his head on the ball, the only problem is that the ball can go anywhere. Sven Botman has huge potential but he's only played one full game to has a lot to learn. I think we'll see the best of him after the World Cup break as he'll have settled in by then.

Midfield is reasonably strong, not Man City strong but will do well against most teams. Bruno has the potential to be world class and will shine with better players in the team. He was outstanding against Forest but we unfortunately have Almiron feeding off his through balls and Almiron isn't clinical enough. He will run around all day, closing players down and providing an outlet, unfortunately, he'll score 3 or 4 goals a season. Joelinton is excellent in midfield, our most improved player under Howe. He will possibly cover more ground than anybody on the pitch and will never give up. Willock will cover ground and will get stuck in, he can also pop up and get goals but I think he'll be a bit too busy to get forward too much.

My only hope is that we play well and prove that we're making progress, regardless of the result. I think Howe will want the 3 points but it will take a massive performance for that to happen and we don't have the quality for that yet.

Howe is doing a fantastic job, better than any of us could have expected. The reason he's doing well is that he's a good manager and he also loves football. Our best managers have always loved football and aren't worried about the job. Howe probably has 99% of the fans on his side and he's probably as popular as Keegan and Sir Bobby which shows how well he's done. I think he could be with us for a very long time and will surprise a lot of people as he leaves nothing to chance. He's a workaholic who misses nothing and he’ll hopefully get what he deserves, that will take time.

We have a new sleeve sponsor who have paid more for a small square on the sleeve than our main shirt sponsor, the shirt sponsor ends at the end of this season so we will bring in considerably more money going forward which we can then spend on quality players. Ashley has left the club with virtually no commercial income which will change and allow us to spend more that we currently can.

We have a team which can now hold its own in the division without fearing relegation so we no longer need to go out and spend on half of the team so we should be able to put more money into fewer players bringing quality in over quantity. We are probably 3 quality players from being able to say we’ll finish top 6 with any confidence and probably a quality forward from being able to say we’ll finish top 8 with any degree of confidence but that doesn’t mean that either couldn’t happen if everything went our way.

We haven’t spent a fortune yet and that’s because we can’t without boxing ourselves in with FFP. We still have money to spend but we don’t want it to all go in one year when FFP is averaged over three. We need to see how we get on and use transfer windows to make tweaks. We could still bring in a couple of more players in this window, we could also bring in nobody else and wait until the winter window.

It's going to take us years to get into the top 4 s everybody is improving. I think we’re miles away from you, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs, the others not so much and not playing in Europe could give us a little edge on some teams as all of our focus is domestic.

I think the ground will be bouncing tomorrow but could go quiet if our backs are to the wall. We could come at you from the off or we could be a bit more cautious, it’s really hard to tell with it being so early in the season to work out how we’re going to play.

If any of you are coming to the game, you can drink in any pubs, we don’t have away pubs and none are off limits unlike at most grounds. Newcastle has changed over the years for the better and everybody is welcome as long as they behave.

Good luck tomorrow, just not too much of it and I will be delighted if we can get a point from this game as that will show huge progress for us.

You've just become a very interesting project for other businesses that might want to invest in you, I'm sure that current FFP limit will increases two fold over the year Mick. I can see investment coming from Saudi.

But be aware, any investment from any Arab state will increase those that are bitterly jealous and you'll be labelled cheats, you do get used to it though and kinda know what to expect from certain areas of the media.

The good thing for NUFC is that they'll know the problems that will arise, unlike at City where our owners bought a club to invest in and then they were hit by a bogus FFP and had to make quick decisions to legally negotiate it.

Personally I think City did really well against FFP and kept with in its rules, but we're still classed as cheats by the Bitters.

Good luck in the future Mick, but just not today.... ;^)