Next GE - Starmer Labour or Tory government?

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The NUM (Scargill etc.) wanted such super wages for their people that the government just went and bought it from abroad instead under the banner of globalisation, because it was the economically sensible choice to make.

Wow!

 

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Oh that is a tricky one! Probably Conservative

At least you are honest.

- but right now I would probably stay at home or go to the polling station and draw a big dick on the paper.

So you will vote Tory

When I was younger I voted for Labour - well Tony Blair - does that count as Labour? I also admired the intellect of Gordon Brown and felt he was brought down by events beyond his control - the US toxic mortgages etc. and the subsequent financial crisis. But in retrospect Blair pi$$ed me off and it wasn't the Iraq war like for most people: I thought it was a mistake to not put some delays on the people from the newest (Eastern) countries joining the EU moving here - which I actually still believe was a mistake that ultimately lead to Brexit.

Blair could, so could Cameron, so could May etc

I actually think many things brought in during Blairs time - cause problems for modern Britain and specifically in my working situation. It was under him that the whole culture or league tables and targets came into being: it was supposed to be a time of freedom, but because of that (target culture) we have been micro-managed extensively and are always being driven to make improvements and get everyone above average!!! I'm in a people business not a 'widgit' factory where these sorts of demands cannot be met.

I am no fan of Blair but the targets set for the NHS worked.

But I couldn't stand Jeremy Corbyn or all those left-wing views, starting with unilateral disarmament.

You like BOMBS! bombs kill people.

What other Left Wing views didn't you like?

So as I have got older I guess I have switched to Conservative - but Theresa May was rubbish and although I voted Remain in 2016 once the result came through I felt it had to be implemented because the majority wanted control over borders/laws/money and to not enact it would mean an end to democracy as I understood it to be. May wasn't doing it, so I suppose I bought into the whole 'lets get Brexit done' crap and the Johnson rubbish. I'd already been duped by the take back control thing: our borders, our laws, our money and have now realised it was just a scam* illegal migration higher than ever, ditto legal migration & ECHR over-rules UK law (e.g. on Rwanda) and millions wasted everyday housing asylum-seekers in hotels, it is a farce but not a funny one in such difficult times.

Like many you were duped into believing Tory nonsense but will still vote for more of their nonsense.

I am really in a depression as regards politics - I actually felt some sympathy for Boris Johnson for a period: he finally got the job he wanted then a few weeks later Corona virus comes along (thanks China). As that was just about fading into the background - February (22/2/22 to be precise), a European war starts (thanks Putin). Finally he eventually loses his post because some idiot got too drunk in a commons bar and let his lustfulness cloud his judgement. Three things that Johnson had nothing to do with especially Covid-19 and Ukraine. But he let me down in so many other ways: didn't sort out channel crossings or back his home secretary who was struggling to do so & talked too much about net zero (thanks Carrie) & so in the end, I was glad he went too.

Defo a Tory, you have all the excuses they use for being pathetic useless nonentities.

Truss reminds me of Theresa May Mk 2.

May was a natural Tory, Truss is a Libertarian nutcase,

but Labour don't enthuse me either. I thought Keir Starmer had a chance at one point - namely when he tried to sideline Angela "all torys are scum" Rayner. But the next day she seemed to end up with more jobs than before he tried to demote her, so he lost credibility in my eyes, because of that. If Labour really want to win in 2024 they need to get her out of the limelight, she is a vote winner, but for the Torys and deep-down, I think Keir Starmer knows it.

Tories only like middle class women, working class women scare them and make them question their place in the world

As regards the events of the last week, well I am struggling to come to terms with it. A massive gamble by Truss and her Chancellor - yet it looks like making us a laughing stock - even more of a laughing stock internationally, than under 'Dangle Boris' and that is hard to comprehend.

It was not a gamble, it was an ideological driven attempt to cut back the state and enrich the friends of the Tory party. It is the economics of lunacy. For capitalism to thrive it needs a strong state, look at China. What these fools have done is introduce Keynesianism on cocaine and gone against Thatcher's doyen Hayek by introducing growth targets. What is also striking is the introduction of supple measures that make any sort of collectivism almost impossible. This is the dream of Libertarian the Tufton street think tanks.

*I recently re-watched the Brexit Drama with Benedict Cumberbatch as Cummings on TV its on Britbox and it is such an interesting show, it made me realise that I had been tricked by a very clever bloke, which has helped, a bit. I don't know why Cumberbatch agreed to play the role actually because I assume he is against Brexit and against the guy he plays so convincingly and so well.

Never seen it.