Next Manager after Pep

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Well come on wise guy. Instead of being distinctly unfunny why don't you provide the members with a reasoned opinion as to whom you think is most likely to fill Pep's shoes.
I see you’ve tipped Vieira, but with no management experience of the Champions League, none even in any European competition, I cannot see the board anointing him as Guardiola’s immediate successor.
 
Whoever we get ain't going to follow Peps stats no chance we will have to hope we can still be challenging for trophies, its something we all will have to get use to.
 
Well come on wise guy. Instead of being distinctly unfunny why don't you provide the members with a reasoned opinion as to whom you think is most likely to fill Pep's shoes.
If you think I'm going to engage in any supposed meaningful dialogue with somebody who stated that Patrick Vieira is the 'only candidate' to replace Pep, then you really are mad.
 
Appointing ten Hag would make the most sense: similar ethos, knows Guardiola's system, and is just as driven/obsessed. Would be the most seamless transition.

Can't disagree with Ten Hag's ethos, but my only slight concern on this potential appointment is a lack of experience in coaching world class footballers who are already at the top of their game.

Ten Hag seems to be a great coach for the younger players, which is a bit easier as they are more of a sponge when implementing tactics & positional play.

Would prefer a coach who has success managing a more balanced squad such as Luis Enrique as if Ten Hag does rock up at City after Pep, he's going to have a world class squad at his disposal which comes with its own internal team challenges.
 
Can't disagree with Ten Hag's ethos, but my only slight concern on this potential appointment is a lack of experience in coaching world class footballers who are already at the top of their game.

Ten Hag seems to be a great coach for the younger players, which is a bit easier as they are more of a sponge when implementing tactics & positional play.

Would prefer a coach who has success managing a more balanced squad such as Luis Enrique as if Ten Hag does rock up at City after Pep, he's going to have a world class squad at his disposal which comes with its own internal team challenges.
Good points, but ten Hag would also have an academy of young players that should be pushing to be included into that first team, something he is better accustomed to doing. He’s now created two teams that have pushed into the latter stages of the Champions League so he’s got talent.
 
Can't disagree with Ten Hag's ethos, but my only slight concern on this potential appointment is a lack of experience in coaching world class footballers who are already at the top of their game.

Ten Hag seems to be a great coach for the younger players, which is a bit easier as they are more of a sponge when implementing tactics & positional play.

Would prefer a coach who has success managing a more balanced squad such as Luis Enrique as if Ten Hag does rock up at City after Pep, he's going to have a world class squad at his disposal which comes with its own internal team challenges.
Pep had only worked at Barcelona B before going to Barcelona first team. Having worked at the biggest club in Germany (not as the first team manager, I know, but watching Pep’s every step) and then at the biggest club in the Netherlands is good enough preparation. He excites me much more than Enrique
 
Can't disagree with Ten Hag's ethos, but my only slight concern on this potential appointment is a lack of experience in coaching world class footballers who are already at the top of their game.

Ten Hag seems to be a great coach for the younger players, which is a bit easier as they are more of a sponge when implementing tactics & positional play.

Would prefer a coach who has success managing a more balanced squad such as Luis Enrique as if Ten Hag does rock up at City after Pep, he's going to have a world class squad at his disposal which comes with its own internal team challenges.
Totally agree with you, clearly he is an outstanding coach BUT can he coach and keep high class ego's in check?

Pep is not only a magnificent coach and mentor but also a brilliant man manager that all but a tiny few buy into, replacing him is going to be a huge moment in the clubs history.
 
Pep had only worked at Barcelona B before going to Barcelona first team. Having worked at the biggest club in Germany (not as the first team manager, I know, but watching Pep’s every step) and then at the biggest club in the Netherlands is good enough preparation. He excites me much more than Enrique
Working with big ego's and world class players is a very different beast, that is the issue.

Can ten Hag do that? No one knows, if he can he is the ideal candidate in many ways but it is a risk however good a job he has done at Ajax.
 
I see you’ve tipped Vieira, but with no management experience of the Champions League, none even in any European competition, I cannot see the board anointing him as Guardiola’s immediate successor.

The same board that appointed a completely untested Guardiola with no CL or even top flight experience in the first place? And then replaced him with his assistant, who also had zero experience of being a first team manager, that board?

I don't think Vieira should or will be our manager, but I don't think this board will be making a decision based on length of CV
 
No it would not, don't kid yourself.
I’m not kidding myself. In terms of playing style and personal drive they‘re more similar than say Pellegrini and Guardiola or Mancini and Pellegrini. That does not mean they are the same or that there isn’t going to be a drop off, but at the moment ten Hag is closer than say Fernandinho, Potter, or Kompany.
 
Working with big ego's and world class players is a very different beast, that is the issue.

Can ten Hag do that? No one knows, if he can he is the ideal candidate in many ways but it is a risk however good a job he has done at Ajax.
Bottom line is, depending on when the time comes, there won’t be much better options than. Even if Nagelsmann isn’t at Bayern anymore, I’m not sure I would take him ahead of ETH. Then who else? Enrique might still be with Spain after the WC and even him has cons. The other names mentioned here like Arteta, Rogers, Vieira... just no
 
Bottom line is, depending on when the time comes, there won’t be much better options than. Even if Nagelsmann isn’t at Bayern anymore, I’m not sure I would take him ahead of ETH. Then who else? Enrique might still be with Spain after the WC and even him has cons. The other names mentioned here like Arteta, Rogers, Vieira... just no
I agree 100% , that's why the though of losing Pep is not good, it could well be a period of transition for us and if we don't get it right a difficult one.
 
The same board that appointed a completely untested Guardiola with no CL or even top flight experience in the first place? And then replaced him with his assistant, who also had zero experience of being a first team manager, that board?

I don't think Vieira should or will be our manager, but I don't think this board will be making a decision based on length of CV
True, though the circumstances were not quite the same, never are of course.

According to Soriano, these were the criteria they applied when they appointed Guardiola.
  1. Respects the sports-management model and the role of the technical director
  2. Playing style
  3. Values to promote in the first team, with special attention to the development of young players
  4. Training and performance
  5. Proactive management of the dressing room
  6. Other responsibilities with, and commitments to, the club, including maintaining a conservative profile and avoiding overuse of the media
  7. Has experience as a player and coach at the highest level
  8. Supports the good governance of the club
  9. Knowledge of the Spanish league, the club and European competition.

Going to be difficult to find someone who meets each one, assuming they still use the same. I can see that ten Hag meets many, though his lack of experience in England would presumably be a concern. Vieira would meet many but so too would Arteta. If the Spanish-speaking management remain in place, Arteta might be a more comfortable choice. It’s not going to be easy.
 
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