Neymar Transfer and its Effects on us

revisisland said:
Is anyone saying he is? Does anyone dispute he will not help them? Even if he plays like Robinho for the next 5 years his global branding alone will be worth it.
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Yeah, quite a few on this forum now think PSG are at the very least, on par with Barca and Madrid (with the addition of Neymar).
 
Quite simply its raised the bar for everyone, especially clubs in the PL who with current TV deals and revenues will be licking their lips.

Of course there are not many players worth anywhere near these amounts in world football if any to be honest but the market is what it is and if PSG can spend this amount then you can be damn sure we can as well if the right player is available.

Mbappe springs to mind right now if we can beat Real to him.
 
Do any of our best young players have buy out clauses?

One consequence of this transfer is that buy out clauses will be going up.
 
bluealf said:
You sound like an Arsenal supporter talking about City.

It is time FFP was blown out of the water, we have no debt and can afford to buy anybody who wants to join us, if PSG have thought fuck it let's do this, maybe we should just go all out and buy who the fuck we want and argue it in court about clubs in debt buying players for 90m+ on a yearly basis, along with all the other players they have bought, it is that that makes me angry.
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You are absolutely right, but UEFA employ a mechanism to stop any legal challenge.....they just suspend you from UCL, just as they threatened us.
 
BluessinceHydeRoad said:
There is nothing dodgy about PSG, but there is a great deal which is dodgy about UEFA. FFP was pushed through by an "administrator" since banned for receiving "disloyal payments" and these regulations are based on the principle that any tinpot company can put money into a club, apart from the owner or anyone related to him in a commercial sense. The owner is just about the only person on earth who cannot invest in or sponsor his own football club. This is a novel and certainly unlawful principle and we are fortunate at City that the club could dismiss UEFA's actions against us in 2014 as "a pinch". PSG depend on owner investment much more than we had to and it is UEFA's biased and unlawful stance which forced them to do this through sponsorship. It is UEFA which should be condemned, not PSG.
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Spot on.
 
Think its inevitable that it will add some % to what have already been crazily inflated fee's this window. Walker's more realistic fee for example (imo) is more like 30m not 45, Mendy much the same, not just ours though, Lukaku went for at least 20m to 30m more than he is worth, pickford is nothing more than a 15m player and there'll be loads more examples. What effect this latest splurge will have in my opinion is pre Neymar, we might have stood a chance of prizing Mbappe from Monaco (assuming we could even tempt him over madrid) for 130 or 140m. I'd say there's zero chance of that now and if he goes this summer it'll be for closer to 180 or more
 
I think it takes the media focus off us. Buy out clauses may become a norm to guarantee big fees, which could affect us. We have no FFP worries. Where there is a knock on effect could be in terms of us losing Sanchez or Mbappe, I don't know. With 200m in the bank Barcelona will be spending big over the next month.
 
Isn't it a proper sign of the times that whilst Liverpool worry over Coutinho, Chelsea fret about Hazard, we may fear an approach for two or three of our boys, united have literally nobody that Barca would dream of trying to grab.

(Unless I am doing Jessie a major disservice)
 
In my opinion, Neymar is a transfer quite unlike any other that's been seen in my lifetime. As much as anything to do with football, it is a political manoeuvre, by a sovereign state. That's why I don't think it will have any real impact, because it is seen, and will be seen, in the terms I've just described. Incidentally, the awarding of the 2022 World Cup is another aspect of exactly the same offensive.
 
Hey, if we sign Mbappe for upwards of £140m, or Sanchez for £50m, then we'll get lumped in with them. I've absolutely no doubt this is linked to both our owners being from where they are. The Rags have broken the world transfer record twice in two seasons (fuck 'em I'm putting Lukaku down as £90m), and in one of those deals an agent made a fucking obscene amount of money - relatively fuck all mentioned. It's all to do with Arabs - never been forgiven for those Arab Conquests of the 7th century - bastards.
 
revisisland said:
Is anyone saying he is? Does anyone dispute he will not help them? Even if he plays like Robinho for the next 5 years his global branding alone will be worth it.
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Sure he will help them as he'd get into any team in the world. I think they'd be much much closer to winning the champions league though if they'd spent £200m on three or four other top drawer players instead.

Put it this way, would I rather we'd bought just Neymar or Ederson, Walker, Mendy, Bernardo and potentially Sanchez?

And i dont believe any scenario where he plays like robinho for five years will be seen as having been a worthwhile exercise, but he won't anyway to it's a moot point.

I'm glad most people on here would prefer for us avoid entering into pissing contests like this. On the face of it, it does feel like a bit of a watershed moment but as other people have pointed out, when you adjust for inflation there have always been transfers like this that blow everything else out of the water. It's astonishing to think Figo moved for €60m seventeen years ago. Up until a year ago, that was still a massive fee and something you could acquire a world class player for so I'm still sceptical as to how much this transfer will change things. I'm also sceptical as to how much it can really transform PSG. There is no getting around the fact the other clubs in ligue 1 do not have the money to make it a competitive and attractive league for viewers and top players alike.

It's a huge transfer on the face of it but I'm not sure it changes a whole lot in reality.
 
Blue Llama said:
Barca dropped Quatar as a sponsor maybe that's also behind this raid.
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Good point. Although Occam's razor would suggest they just wanted a player, could afford him, and are buying him.

Either way it's nothing to do with Abu Dhabi's illegal blockade of Qatar.
 
Clubs like Spurs will be looking at PSG's squad and wondering what bargains are there to be had. That could have a knock on effect on City.
 
So... apologies for being late to the thread... but how exactly are PSG claiming to be able to afford this transfer?
 
I think it is not going to be surpassed in future, I think the return on investment wont pay off and people will realise it was stupid money. Neymar wont sell enough shirts and PSG wont win the CL. Neymar will sink into obscurity with the french ligue not being watched in Brzil and people really not interested in PSG... His entourage will make a lot of money though.

Impact to City... not sure, but oil money keeps getting bandied about as if it is something tainting the game, so maybe there will be some measures against that. totallly inappropriate though considering Utd and others dont even have the money they are spending wildly!
 
dario2739 said:
So... apologies for being late to the thread... but how exactly are PSG claiming to be able to afford this transfer?
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They aint claiming anything, but they're stumping up the cash
United paid £90m+ each for both Lukaku and Pogba, yet are £400M in debt, so finances can be manipulated to suit

As posted already, if they clear a few players, that frees up wages, and then if this is their only splurge in the transfer market this season, then they will have spent less than us!
 
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