NI woman suspended sentence for having abortion

Hahaha...... fucking hell, nothing like a bit of wumming in the early afternoon!
Well it's all very well calling urmston a wum,but he does have a point,it's the law there (though I think it's crap)hands up all those who shouted others down on the adam johnson thread who had said that in other countries the age of consent is lower, by pointing out the law here has to be obeyed,you can't have it both ways.
 
I will always support the choice of the woman, and by persisting in using the word "kill" you are displaying a total lack of empathy only a step or two removed from the right-to-lifers who protest outside clinics.
But 'kill' is the correct word. If a person or animal is alive, then you stop it being alive, you are killing them/it. It's exactly the correct word.

You haven't responded to my question. I'm genuinely intrigued by your view (and that of others) on that 8%.
 
But 'kill' is the correct word. If a person or animal is alive, then you stop it being alive, you are killing them/it. It's exactly the correct word.

You haven't responded to my question. I'm genuinely intrigued by your view (and that of others) on that 8%.

I don't believe you're "genuinely interested" in anyone's views as you've already made your own perfectly clear. You've stated you don't agree with abortion in cases of rape or fatal foetal abnormality, therefore it's not exactly a stretch to conclude that you don't agree with abortion at all. You haven't even commented on the original topic of this thread but I would hazard a guess that you feel no sympathy for the young woman concerned.
 
But 'kill' is the correct word. If a person or animal is alive, then you stop it being alive, you are killing them/it. It's exactly the correct word.

You haven't responded to my question. I'm genuinely intrigued by your view (and that of others) on that 8%.
When you take a blood sample you don't talk about killing that bit of blood though the cells die.When you remove a cancer you don't talk about killing it.
A foetus is a bundle of cells incapable of independent existence, it is a very different entity from a baby.
I feel very sorry for anyone who miscarries, but what they have lost is potential and a vision for what they wanted not a separate independent human.
In my view what a woman wants for her body is paramount. A full term pregnancy with a baby at the end is fabulous for those who want it but generally both a physical and psychological burden whether wanted or not and for those who don't for law makers to inflict it on people by refusing them access to abortion services is uncaring beyond belief.
 
" the near-total ban on abortion remains in place, even in cases of rape, incest, or even when the fetus won't survive after birth"
Lovely

Fucking backwards.

Noone has the right to take away a woman's right to choose, it's her body and the above is abhorrent.

No doubt the religious are behind it, they seem determined to stop human progression.
 
Fucking backwards.

Noone has the right to take away a woman's right to choose, it's her body and the above is abhorrent.

No doubt the religious are behind it, they seem determined to stop human progression.
10/10.

As I was leaving this morning [kids in bed, off school, wife works from home], the news started going on about the Pope giving out advice on family life, marriage and so on. This from a celibate in a dress. My wife and I just looked at each other and burst out laughing. Why don't people see how ridiculous it all is?
 
10/10.

As I was leaving this morning [kids in bed, off school, wife works from home], the news started going on about the Pope giving out advice on family life, marriage and so on. This from a celibate in a dress. My wife and I just looked at each other and burst out laughing. Why don't people see how ridiculous it all is?

Bang on mate.

The death and misery that occurred in Africa following the Catholic Church condemning condones is another tragedy, in a long list of tragedies that church has been responsible for.
 

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