Spin? I am not spinning anything and if you think you are going to fill those seats week in week out with "singers" think again, ain't happening, the game has moved on and changed.You can spin it all you want. The second tier regularly don’t sing and its clearly different from say level 1 or 3. It could also mean lots of fans will be priced out - lots of younger fans and people on lower incomes who can’t afford ss2 for instance.
You shouldn’t have to justify it. There simply shouldn’t be any corporate or hospitality at the front of a home end!
The front of a home end should arguably be the loudest and most atmospheric section. The current plans mean that’s not going to happen
@jrb I'm a great admirer of you and your input into this thread. The 1894 group similarly with their matchday efforts and tireless crusade to improve the atmosphere.The club, directors, and people at City involved with the North stand expansion have been reading this thread form day one. They all know what the fans wanted. They’ve ignored us. Regardless if Kevin Parker, all the OSC’s (which won’t happen as they’re too affiliated to the club), and the fans groups came together and raised the hospitality issue, the club still wouldn’t change the plans. The club will go ahead with what they’ve proposed including the hospitality section at the front of NSL2.
TBH I’m not arsed now as I’m not moving from SSL1. I think that will go for a lot of fans in the singing sections once the information starts filtering out about what the North stand expansion is really like.
Brilliant , love you thinking, I would be on the phone to Ferran straightaway.I think the practical solution here is to do a hospitality tie-up with the Palace Theatre, so that only people who have been ejected for singing along to The Bodyguard are allowed to buy tickets for the hugely-offensive 600 seat bloc of seats in the new stand.
Or perhaps some self-appointed fan spokesperson can vet the fans in the hospitality section (again, 600 out of c9,000 new seats) for their singing, and arrange their seating for maximum effect. Top tenor at the front, bass towards the back, and so on. Anybody who doesn’t sing and jump up and down for 90 minutes like one of those juvenile dickheads behind the goal at Crystal Palace can forget it, frankly.
Either way I’m sure the club will be delighted to receive a load of criticism for investing another 300m pound and creating hundreds of jobs in what was, truth be told, a sadly neglected and struggling bit of Manchester. They’d doubtless be even happier if the self-appointed spokesperson starts a media campaign against the 300m investment, particularly at the current crucial stage of the season, as the media coverage would surely be both balanced in nature and an overall positive for the club and its owners.
There is a lot of romance about atmosphere.I'm starting to think the away fans are actually singing this about their own support Dave.
No, you just don’t understand what a forum is nor what happens when plans (for anything) are revealed nor that people don’t have to like something (whether it’s certain tactics in a game, the performance of some players even when we’ve won or architectural designs).You're just a moaning fucker though, I pity your wife/partner
There seems to be an insinuation that people who are a bit older and/or better off are less likely to contribute to the atmosphere than younger, less well off people. I'm not convinced that is the case at all.I would assume the type of City fan that goes into a hospitality section on a regular basis is generally older, well off, and goes to sit down and to watch the match?(stand corrected on that)
Thanks.@jrb I'm a great admirer of you and your input into this thread. The 1894 group similarly with their matchday efforts and tireless crusade to improve the atmosphere.
I'm very surprised that you've waved the white flag so early and accepted defeat without putting up a fight. Our City was built on anti-establishment ideals, workers rights, the common man front of centre.
There are plenty of Blues in other areas of the ground who would join this fight. We've got a "group" of maybe 50-odd long term SC holders/friends who straddle the 117 aisle between 116/117 and it wouldn't take much to mobilise our group to take on the club over this issue. I'd be more than happy to petition the club and gain 100's of signatories from our area. Get another block to do the same, then another, before you know it we could have the whole of the South Stand signed up.
The club would have to take notice, because I'll tell you now, there is no way any of our group would consider relocating to the North Stand if its an unholy mix of hospitality and GA.
Time to take a stand me thinks (pun intended).