North Stand Construction Discussion

[WRicko]

A new 65,000 capacity stadium costs over £1billion. We don’t need a new 100,000 capacity stadium. We’d never fill it. Putting a retractable roof on the Etihad stadium and fitting it out into an indoor arena would cost £100millions. I know Sheikh Mansour is rich, but even he couldn’t justify spending £1.5 bill on a new stadium and converting the Etihad into an indoor arena.

First off I was not saying as such that we should do any of this. I started of by mentioning what other people had said about number of fans wanting a season ticket and what someone else’s comments about an exhibit centre not being exciting.

You say that costs are probative but at the end of the process we could have between 10,000 and 30,0000 extra seats in the stadium and between 20,000 and 40,000 depending on how we did it all i.e depending on if we had converted the stadium to an arena before or after we expanded it.

I doubt either of us no the cost of converting to an arena.

If cost was an issue we could have used the money we have spent on the last two expansion plus the next three to convert it into an arena instead and build a new stadium.

I don’t think you can compare costs of a new stadium with spurs land is a lot cheaper here building new would not be as expensive as conversion and having a much bigger stadium would not be a lot more expensive.

 

[JGL07]

For me we should be ripping out the entire north stand and building one huge, single tier which is all safe standing. Instead what we will have the usual lower tier of singers with a single upper tier which no doubt will be corporate for the first few rows and the rest behind.

Splitting the new stand over 2 tiers won’t help the atmosphere much and if the bottom of the upper tier is sold off as corporate then this again would mean pushing any atmosphere into the back of the stand.

Feels frustrating that we have a great chance to build a single tier, like Spurs, and we ain’t doing it. Might as well match the new stand up to the other end and spread over 3 tiers because I don’t see any improvement based on what we already have (aside from increased capacity).

Yeah City are really going to cut capacity for the best part of a season to satisfy a few obsessives who want an equivalent of the 'Yellow Wall'. How do explain this to those evicted from their seats?

Give it a rest. It will never happen, short of building a complete new stadium elsewhere on the Campus.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

The new NS (as we understand the current proposal) will be fine,meeting most fans needs,financial reality, atmospheric impact and stadium appearance.

We really must try to chill and stop being so nit picky.....these are the best times of our City supporting lives !!

 

[Coatigan]

The new NS (as we understand the current proposal) will be fine,meeting most fans needs,financial reality, atmospheric impact and stadium appearance.

We really must try to chill and stop being so nit picky.....these are the best times of our City supporting lives !!

I think it will be a lot better than 'fine', myself. I'll go as far as I think it will be great.

 

[richards30]

The new NS (as we understand the current proposal) will be fine,meeting most fans needs,financial reality, atmospheric impact and stadium appearance.

We really must try to chill and stop being so nit picky.....these are the best times of our City supporting lives !!

Agreed!! It looks EPIC and will be even better in real life, we are living blessed times the last 7 years and hopefully Pep stays for at least 5 more

 

[Gordyola]

I am no techie but I reckon this is the club's vision. And, in that, like everything else, I believe we are light years ahead of the pack.

Already partnered with Sony

https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/News/Press/202111/21-055E/

 

[Gone for a Burton]

Agreed!! It looks EPIC and will be even better in real life, we are living blessed times the last 7 years and hopefully Pep stays for at least 5 more

Pep is now emotionally connected to City & Manchester.

Following a short sabbatical, hope he remains with CFG as its Global Ambassador when he steps back from coaching.

He is iconic and will magnetise global support,exposure and sponsorship.

I suspect he will work closely with his brother in Girona to help put them at the top of La Liga,and Barca/Franco FC in their place !!

 

[jrb]

Yeah City are really going to cut capacity for the best part of a season to satisfy a few obsessives who want an equivalent of the 'Yellow Wall'. How do explain this to those evicted from their seats?

Give it a rest. It will never happen, short of building a complete new stadium elsewhere on the Campus.

I wouldn’t say it was a few obsessives. ;-) More than a few obsessive City fans wanted a single tier stand, just like Spurs fans have got, and what Everton fans are getting. Spurs and Everton could have built a double or triple tier home end, but they decided to go with a single tier home end behind the goals, because that’s what Spurs and Everton fans wanted, and told the club that through the consultation process. I accept the single tier home ends are built from scratch along with the stadiums.

As part of the NS expansion plans City would have and probably ‘did look at a single tier’ option, but discounted it due to fan displacement, lost match day revenue whilst the stand was under construction, construction costs, and less match day revenue returns after the single tier was built. You can’t put 700 G+ seats on the first 7 rows of a single tier stand, etc. ;-)

 

[jrb]

First off I was not saying as such that we should do any of this. I started of by mentioning what other people had said about number of fans wanting a season ticket and what someone else’s comments about an exhibit centre not being exciting.

You say that costs are probative but at the end of the process we could have between 10,000 and 30,0000 extra seats in the stadium and between 20,000 and 40,000 depending on how we did it all i.e depending on if we had converted the stadium to an arena before or after we expanded it.

I doubt either of us no the cost of converting to an arena.

If cost was an issue we could have used the money we have spent on the last two expansion plus the next three to convert it into an arena instead and build a new stadium.

I don’t think you can compare costs of a new stadium with spurs land is a lot cheaper here building new would not be as expensive as conversion and having a much bigger stadium would not be a lot more expensive.

I wasn’t having a go at you. Apologies if it came across that way. I was joining in with the conversation.

It won’t happen for many reasons. I‘ll touch on them tomorrow. But it’s still an interesting discussion of what could be.

 

[jrb]

According to various media outlets. This from Sly Sports. The article was from 2016. Below

You can imagine how much a new stadium sized retractable roof would cost at the Etihad. The £360mill price then is -£5mill under the cost of the new 23,500 capacity Coop Live Arena.

Real Madrid set for £360m roof after agreement to remodel Santiago Bernabeu​

Madrid president Florentino Perez revealed on Tuesday the project would cost 400 million euros (£360m) with construction expected to start next year.

Real Madrid set for £360m roof after agreement to remodel Santiago Bernabeu

Real Madrid will add a retractable roof to the Santiago Bernabeu after finally reaching an agreement with the city to remodel the stadium.

www.skysports.com