North Stand Construction Discussion

As I’ve pointed out, even though 115 is the official singing section, it isn’t really a proper singing section. I’ve explained why.

If the fans can get a proper singing section from scratch on NSL2 filled with fans who ‘want to relocate there because they want to sing and to create an atmosphere’ in the new NSL2 home end, that has the makings of a proper and genuine singing section.

For that to happen the club have to be onboard and have to set aside a block or blocks on NSL2 for singers only. The club has to work with fans groups and the fans to create a proper singing section on NSL2.

It irks me to say this somewhat, but United and their fans have worked together over a long period of time and have created a genuine and proper singing section above the players tunnel at Old Trafford. United are now taking out a block of executive seating in the centre of the Stretford End to create another safe standing singing section.
But the atmosphere from United fans has been dire in the recent Old Trafford derbies I have attended. I am not saying singing sections are a bad idea but Old Trafford has only got quieter in recent seasons when I have been there. Of course the team being shite doesn't help. The noisiest grounds I have been at with City recently were Spurs (the Cup match), Newcastle, Wolves, Brentford, and even Sheffield United. Forest and Leicester are decent as well. Most other stadiums are worse than the Etihad.
 
As I’ve pointed out, even though 115 is the official singing section, it isn’t really a proper singing section. I’ve explained why.

If the fans can get a proper singing section from scratch on NSL2 filled with fans who ‘want to relocate there because they want to sing and to create an atmosphere’ in the new NSL2 home end, that has the makings of a proper and genuine singing section.

For that to happen the club have to be onboard and have to set aside a block or blocks on NSL2 for singers only. The club has to work with fans groups and the fans to create a proper singing section on NSL2.

It irks me to say this somewhat, but United and their fans have worked together over a long period of time and have created a genuine and proper singing section above the players tunnel at Old Trafford. United are now taking out a block of executive seating in the centre of the Stretford End to create another safe standing singing section.
Will that safe standing be located underneath the water fall ?
 
But the atmosphere from United fans has been dire in the recent Old Trafford derbies I have attended. I am not saying singing sections are a bad idea but Old Trafford has only got quieter in recent seasons when I have been there. Of course the team being shite doesn't help. The noisiest grounds I have been at with City recently were Spurs (the Cup match), Newcastle, Wolves, Brentford, and even Sheffield United. Forest and Leicester are decent as well. Most other stadiums are worse than the Etihad.
That’s because City battered United. :-) Having watched the Rags on tv last season, and considering how shit the United team was, as you say, the atmosphere has improved at Old Trafford, led by the singing section.

Best get off the subject of United. Sorry.
 
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I made a remark on their clever coupleing of the paltforms. Every roof beam gets an oxter brace, but below it looks like they hit and miss, rather than are directly one for one.
 
The new North stand will apparently have a new and novel pricing structure rewarding fans with lower season ticket prices based on the decibels they omit during each game on an individual basis and fining fans for leaving before the full time whistle.

Maybe not the most popular take, but I'd rather see instances of all round stadium noise at key moments, than pockets and limited sections singing/making noise the whole game. On many many occasions we have seen sudden amplified noise and a change in atmosphere give players a lift, spur them on, wobble opponents, etc. Where as, for example watching German teams, people banging drums and singing all game long just becomes part of the background and blends away into nothing. Good atmosphere for the fans on a day out maybe. No use to the team imo.

And that is one of the reasons I am not that worried about the 648, or where the singers go etc, in the north stand. Because the extra 8000 additional seats will imo generate noise when it matters most.

Now if you excuse me, I have a CPoverview video to watch.
 
It's gone, the head of that pier, like a tooth, they've managed to pull it out of there! I honestly still can't see what's holding that pier at that angle, now that the top tension is gone. I can't seem to spot it touching the tower anywhere, and it feels counterintuitive all that is weighted on that bottom connection. Anyone any thoughts?
 
It's gone, the head of that pier, like a tooth, they've managed to pull it out of there! I honestly still can't see what's holding that pier at that angle, now that the top tension is gone. I can't seem to spot it touching the tower anywhere, and it feels counterintuitive all that is weighted on that bottom connection. Anyone any thoughts?
Another image I found. Still bolted at the base and strapped around the central section.
 

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How they then brace the pier after that, is the other issue. There seems to be scope to prop it in the locations in green, possibly. And the only way out after that seems diagonally out and up.

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Really intriguing one to watch.


Another image I found. Still bolted at the base and strapped around the central section.

Good spot on those straps in the centre. Makes me think back to when I pointed to that as a potential logical location above.

Still feels light to me though, must be touching somewhere else closer to the top, maybe we juat cant see it where it is so dense.
 
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That standalone steel frame there. Looks the right size, possibly shape, for the frame for the facade mockup. Sensible location for it too. Definitely keep an eye on that.

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Either that or some havily engineered new advertising board.
 
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That standalone steel frame there. Looks the right size, possibly shape, for the frame for the facade mockup. Sensible location for it too. Definitely keep an eye on that.

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Either that or some havily engineered new advertising board.

Definitely looks like the mock-up. Looks like the grey cladding is there as well, propped up against the hoardings to the left of the steel frame?

I took a screen grab, cropped and enlarged the picture on my iPad. As per the picture quality suffers.

I finish working tomorrow afternoon early, so I’ll shoot over to the Etihad to get some pictures.

Thankfully the steel mock-up frame and grey cladding is right opposite the gate, shadow of the gate on the floor, so getting clear pictures will be easy. :-)

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As an example.

The cladding mock-up at the Lumina development in Trafford Park.

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Definitely looks like the mock-up. Looks like the grey cladding is there as well, propped up against the hoardings to the left of the steel frame?

I took a screen grab, cropped and enlarged the picture on my iPad. As per the picture quality suffers.

I finish working tomorrow afternoon early, so I’ll shoot over to the Etihad to get some pictures.

Thankfully the steel mock-up frame and grey cladding is right opposite the gate, shadow of the gate on the floor, so getting clear pictures will be easy. :-)

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Yeah that grey could be the horizontal band, looks a similar colour. Hard to tell feom so far. Which is what I have always maintained is the main issue with it, for me, and what will make or break it.

I would think it will take a dew days to assemble it all on the frame.

Close enough to a public route but still within the site, to the edge of the main build is where these are best located. That way they can bring clients planners etc to them, but not have to drag them through the working part of the site.
 

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