North Stand Construction Discussion

jrb said:
A section of the covering letter.

140444/NMC/2024|Non-material amendment to Planning Permission 136763/FO/2023 to vary the wording of Conditions 2 (Approved Plans and Documents) to make elevational alteations

The Applicant is now proposing a further NMA to Planning Permission Ref: 136763/FO/2023 to agree a slight change to the rhythm of the hotel and commercial building façade bays.

Proposed Description of Development

The proposed Description of Development of this Application is as follows:

“Non-material amendment to Planning Permission 136763/FO/2023 to vary the wording of Condition 2 (Approved Plans and Documents).”

Proposed Non-Material Amendment

Following the granting of the Planning Permission, further detailed design development has been undertaken in relation to the North Stand development and specifically in respect of the hotel building façade.

This original façade condition for the hotel building included a ‘two-on, two-off’ rhythm of fritted to vision glazing, which was ultimately determined to be acoustically vulnerable to flanking sound transmission as rooms would effectively share either side of the same mullion in the facade with no internal lining behind. The proposed amendment seeks to slightly change the hotel façade from a ‘two-on, two-off’ rhythm to an ‘on-off, on-off’ rhythm. It ultimately retains the overarching conceptual approach behind the façade with glazing sitting behind architectural vertical ‘ribs’ connected to the curtain wall system.

Without the facade shift, the detail at the central mullion would require two layers of dense plasterboard to be run through to the glass on each side, creating an awkward visual both internally and externally. This requirement is eliminated with the half bay shift.

To ensure consistent detail and visual continuity across City Square, the mullions have very slightly shifted also on the commercial building.

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What is interesting is that they now describe it as 'fritted glazing' for the solid panels, where previously it was metal panels. Huge difference that. For the better, if that is indeed what they end up going with. The sample panel will tell.
 
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Coatigan said:
What is interesting is that they now describe it as 'fritted glazing' for the solid panels, where previously it was metal panels. Huge difference that. For the better, if that is indeed what they end up going with. The sample panel will tell.
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This would look better than their fins, having a sail on the hotel ties in with the Manchester City Badge which has a tall ship on it. This building is named in the planning statement as inspiration for the hotel look etc, why did they not just copy it

Northwestern University’s Segal Visitors Center is a $35 million lakeside sailing and visitor center, topped with a two-story car parking facility. Two of the exterior facades feature a tensile screening that incorporates a signature sailing theme by depicting water waves. This is achieved by 94 thin-width vertically curved fabric panels set at right angles to the building with alternate panels curving towards or away from the building.


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Coatigan said:
What is interesting is that they now describe it as 'fritted glazing' for the solid panels, where previously it was metal panels. Huge difference that. For the better, if that is indeed what they end up going with. The sample panel will tell.
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Are we talking about the 'sails' on the hotel? So they're now going to be fancy frosted glass in effect?
 
Whilst I personally can't see the NSL2 becoming a corporate free singing end with cheap tickets, I did fill out the 1894 questionnaire and added the comment that the whole fan base should be canvassed for opinion, including season ticket holders, citizen members casual match day members etc.
1894 won't get everything right all of the time (and neither do the club) but is important us fans gave a meaningful voice.

See below re West Ham. The commercialisation of football is affecting everyone and is in danger of pricing out young, working class fans.

www.change.org

Sign the Petition

Oppose Season Ticket Price Rises & Changes To Concession Tickets
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All pictures credit CP Overview.

Thanks for saving me a wasted trip down to the Etihad today.

The metal fences have been removed and replaced by a portable cabin.

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