North Stand Construction Discussion

Coatigan said:
Great find. It is such a common thing, that I quite often wonder why a condition like that is even noted as pre-commencement rather than pre-installation, by default.

That aside, the programme included for the installation of the mock-up is by Sisk, so they may be more advanced with them than we all think.

It is still including a broader commencement date of late October, so there doesn't seem to be much of a planned shift as of yet. The facade mock-up would be ready on site around April, so that will be the time to look at it, so will hold off comments on it just now.

edit, the 'mock-up' on there is just the extents, presumably to agree the size of the real life one that will be installed for inspection. Rather than to approve it off the back of that.
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Not to bore too much with planning, but there was a push for only "true" pre-commencement conditions to be imposed on developments to reduce delays in getting construction started. By "true" I mean things that have to be done before works commence - archaeology, contamination for example. Materials only need to be agreed before they're used. To play it safe you could say prior to above ground development, so all the enabling works can be done whilst that's being discharged. The Council's never have a problem with that - hence this application - so it's just a waste of time not imposing it in the first place!

I would expect when the discharge of condition application comes in - as soon as this NMA is approved I'd expect - we will get more of an idea on materials with plans/brochures/specifications.
 
Manncity said:
I hope vast majority of seats are for season tickets
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It depends on what the appetite is from existing season ticket holders. It's a single tier where 10,000 blues could go and make a racket. It can become our home end. But are people going to want to move over to it? The entry level hospitality proposed might put a few people off, even though there's still 9,500 standard tickets in there. It could and should be the singing section and the answer to all of the previous failed attempts to create a single singing section. A large group under the roof making a racket and getting noise going around the ground, as opposed to separate groups of a few thousand in the south stand on different tiers that can't hear each other.

I'm not sure what the appetite is. From reading comments from people like @jrb who gets involved heavily with 1894 I'm not sure many will want to move or whether the club are interested in making it a true home end. That will cause a lot of upheaval for people all around the south stand, will maybe force out some of those who are in what is the family stand in the 2nd tier currently and be too much of a pain.
 
supercity88 said:
It depends on what the appetite is from existing season ticket holders. It's a single tier where 10,000 blues could go and make a racket. It can become our home end. But are people going to want to move over to it? The entry level hospitality proposed might put a few people off, even though there's still 9,500 standard tickets in there. It could and should be the singing section and the answer to all of the previous failed attempts to create a single singing section. A large group under the roof making a racket and getting noise going around the ground, as opposed to separate groups of a few thousand in the south stand on different tiers that can't hear each other.

I'm not sure what the appetite is. From reading comments from people like @jrb who gets involved heavily with 1894 I'm not sure many will want to move or whether the club are interested in making it a true home end. That will cause a lot of upheaval for people all around the south stand, will maybe force out some of those who are in what is the family stand in the 2nd tier currently and be too much of a pain.
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I'm in 115 front row. I'll be staying there unless cheaper in North Stand
 
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