Nottingham Forest (A) | PL | Post Match Thread

[CatMan]

Without Guardiola we wouldn't have achieved half of our recent successes.

That is not being denied. The facts are, this phase is now over. We have lost 15 of our last 30 games. Have a little think about that for a moment!

 

[LittleblueLever]

We’ve been watching the greatest team in the world and it’s been wonderful. Sadly our once great team has run its final race as have most of the older players on the pitch today. Stupid mistakes have cost us matches all season and it doesn’t look like this will change anytime soon. We’re too predicable in every game. Summer can’t come soon enough.

 

[cupsforcockups]

I know we’ve won four in a row but unless pep changes it we won’t be winning another for quite a while. Will pep change set up and tactics,I doubt it .A season of winning nothing(how it used to be) as zero chance of beating Bournemouth

 

[Blue Mist]

We can blame individial players all we want but until the manager stops this constant slow passing from one wing to another we are going nowhere.

 

[Cityfan]

For the umpteenth millionth time, NOTHING changes whilst Guardiola remains. Just eventually you happy clappers may just get it; this thing has run its course.

Mmm
So far under Pep everything has changed.
We've .won 4 titles in a row for the first time ever.
We've had 100 point season for the first time ever.
We've changed every player in the squad bar KDB since he arrived.
Our playing style has changed numerous times, flying wingers, false 9, 4 centre backs , backs into midfield.
No manager is perfect and we've got an ageing team and the best midfielder in the world out all season, but the idea that nothing changes under Pep is either an overreaction to a bad result if I'm being charitable or the ramblings of an uninformed idiot if I'm not.

 

[paulchapo]

RB and creative/attacking midfielder are paramount.

Left back too unless I& Reilly is given a chance. Gvardiol was never great defensively but this season he's regressed.

 

[Legal Alien]

Same old story for us this season.

In the first half they have everyone behind the ball and let us try to break them down, which we don't. We had a great effort from Gonzalez that hit the post, Erling had a couple of chances but i think that was it.

In the second, once Gonzalez went off, our midfield was wide open and with us playing with a narrow back three they exploited the space and we gifted them a goal.
They had time to make a pass to a wide open winger who then easily made space past Gvardiol and then puts it in at Ederson's near post.
After making a great save, Ederson then lets himself and everyone down by conceding that. That was shite keeping!

We then had a good effort by Kovacic but i expected us to show some urgency and bombard their goal, but no, we barely troubled them!

That is worrying and pretty much sums up our effort and attitude this season and it starts with Pep and has permeated through the squad.
Everyone involved needs to take a good look at themselves and sort it out in time for next season, because this season has been nowhere near good enough!

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Yeah I was naffed off with the performance but this season is done in my eyes.
Whatever we get is an afterthought, we're a spent force this year after the excursions of the last 4 years, as I've said on here a thousand times we have a perfect storm of old players, new players, young players, injured players, a drop off in form and intensity and a lack in confidence.

No biggie.

I always thought this would happen last season but we went and did 4 in a row.

We'll be back this year, no way I can be annoyed at the club, the manager, the team and the owners.

Just saying.

Agree in general but a week off and I even with injuries expect us to put a shift in.

Win or lose in the bad old dark days we'd put effort in....most of the time.

The standard of some performances this year and I know we set a very high bar over the last 11/12 years has been disgraceful.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Without Guardiola we wouldn't have achieved half of our recent successes.

True but without KDB, Bernardo , Stones et al we mightn't have achieved half of our recent successes either.
Really need something different from Pep.

 

[RayCTID]

That is not being denied. The facts are, this phase is now over. We have lost 15 of our last 30 games. Have a little think about that for a moment!

Still without one of our key players and haven't had a consistent line up all season on top of integrating the January signings. One of our major creative players is now past his best. See what happens next season.

 

[Mr. Shush]

That is not being denied. The facts are, this phase is now over. We have lost 15 of our last 30 games. Have a little think about that for a moment!

I agree. It is the phase of constant possession. We had the ball for 70% of the game. And for what? This type of play is slow; uninspiring, 1990's Italian football. I'm not advocating for Pep to leave or be sacked. I'm saying he needs to adapt. Not sure why Marmoush wasn't started this game.

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

We need to take more risks otherwise say goodbye to top 5 .Just seenAnother dodgy pen in brighton game they won 2-1 point behind us now we lose this game and pressures on big time.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Came to us in the form of his life.
Fck knows where it is now. Terrible man management.

 

[RayCTID]

True but without KDB, Bernardo , Stones et al we mightn't have achieved half of our recent successes either.
Really need something different from Pep.

It is all down to indvidual mistakes not the overall set up. We were on course for that until the 83rd minute.

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

Came to us in the form of his life.
Fck knows where it is now. Terrible man management.

Best player in the Bundesliga supposedly!

 

[blue b4 the moon]

We haven't really bottled anything have we?
Until all the injuries hit us we were top.of the league. The Rodri injury with no obvious replacement ripped the heart out of the side. We then lost almost all our defensive players. Then the tremendous efforts of the last four seasons caught up with an ageing team. It's been a perfect storm which has cost us dearly.

Writing on the wall in the home Arse game, ok rodders was off but 45 mins v 10 players who just sat back.....our master plan was to pass forever then Dias would shoot.

Bereft of ideas in an early crucial game was rather criminal.

 

[Man-chester copperpot]

Poor today, if i had to give any advice i would simply say CROSS THE FUCKING BALL TO HAALAND YOU TWAT!

It’s not like we’ve still got Dickov upfront!

Best striker in the world and don’t use him

 

[rodrizontal]

There’s nothing wrong with our attack. Savinho scored goals last season as one of the most devastating talents in la liga. Doku is one the best 1v1 attackers in football, Haaland one of the best strikers in the world.

It’s the tactics when we attack they don’t know whether to recycle possession or attack the box. It’s like we are confused Sav and Doku both look confused when countering and it just leads to a pass back.

Doku and Savinho were shite today, nothing to do with tactics

 

[rodrizontal]

KDB and Marmoush sat out almost the entire game and yet we lacked any sort of creativity. Some weird decisions from Pep

Yeah, because they did very well when they came on

 

[RayCTID]

Absolutely. But surely he could/should make us harder to beat? Surely he could take the handbrake off an allow them to take a risk going forwards occasionally?

He’s a legend of the game but he’s been miles below his brilliant best this season. I think the frustration is that most can see where the gaps are yet nothing has changed

Judge him at the end of the summer and the start of the season not now. We still have a decent shout of still qualifying for the Champions League and winning the FA Cup despite being below our standards.