Official January 2013 Transfer Update Thread

MSP said:
MCFCHOWELL said:
I think Ivan Perisic to Wolfsburg from BVB for 7.5 million euros, is more or less a done deal.

Wow, when the f will we make such deals. They paid him 5-6 millions, he barely played there and they make profit on him. WTF

I love how people on this forum over overemphasise, 60 appearances in 18 months does n't constitute barely playing, he has shown his worth, it is just a case of that he is perhaps more suited to a different style of football and they have better players in his position in Kuba, Goetze and Reus.
 
How many starts from that and how many 5-10 minutes subs? He played 1500 minutes in his whole Dortmund career.

He was fined few weeks ago and Klopp shat all over him in media after he complained to same media about his miserable playing time and that he has a feeling Klopp has something personal against him. Klopp said literally - he should stop crying like baby in media and work more as media is not place where he'd earn playing time but training pitch.

His transfer to Dortmund was utter fail for both sides and to get a profit from such transfer is bordering with miracle. For Dortmund fail only from footballing side though if they sell him for that amount.
 
MSP said:
How many starts from that and how many 5-10 minutes subs? He played 1500 minutes in his whole Dortmund career.

He was fined few weeks ago and Klopp shat all over him in media after he complained to same media about his miserable playing time and that he has a feeling Klopp has something personal against him.

His transfer to Dortmund was utter fail for both sides and to get a profit from such transfer is bordering with miracle.

You must be kidding he scored 7 goals and made 3 assists last season, came from a club in smaller league and whilst BvB have produced and developed a good polish contingent Wolfsburg seem to be better at getting the best out of Balkan players, Dzeko and Mandzukic are good examples.


bare·ly
/ˈbe(ə)rlē/
Adverb

Only just; almost not: "she nodded, barely able to speak"; "a barely perceptible pause".


Use a better adverb perhaps?
 
whilst BvB have produced and developed a good polish contingent Wolfsburg seem to be better at getting the best out of Balkan players, Dzeko and Mandzukic are good examples.

You knocked me down with this argument, I guess Wolfsburg have better chevapi and burek so that make Balkan players to be better there.

Anyway, ask Perisic what he thinks about that transfer and why he is keen to move from top Bundesliga and Champions League team to total mess one.

There is absolutely no chance in a hell his price should go up after his period in Dortmund, only down. He did not improve as a player, he did not really rip Bundesliga apart, nothing.. so fair play to Dortmund negotiators .
 
MSP said:
whilst BvB have produced and developed a good polish contingent Wolfsburg seem to be better at getting the best out of Balkan players, Dzeko and Mandzukic are good examples.

You knocked me down with this argument, I guess Wolfsburg have better chevapi and burek so that make Balkan players to be better there.

Anyway, ask Perisic what he thinks about that transfer and why he is keen to move from top Bundesliga and Champions League team to total mess one.

There is absolutely no chance in a hell his price should go up after his period in Dortmund, only down. He did not improve as a player, he did not really rip Bundesliga apart, nothing.. so fair play to Dortmund negotiators .

Look at where Wolfsburg are in the table though just outside the relegation zone
they have a squad that on paper looks better than that, they are not at the same level atm but I think of them as sort of a Tottenham type club clever buys of players coming in to their prime, well that is the plan anyway.Lately it seems that they their players have n't been performing they have got one semi-reliable goal scorer in Bas Dost and Perisic is the answer to their problems provides more bite in attack in terms of assisting and scoring, they have tried bringing players from other leagues but that has n't always paid off;this time they are buying somebody who is at least some level of reliability in the bundesliga, he was n't good enough for Dortmund but he will fit in at Wolfsburg.

Dortmund had more bargaining power. Sturridge has n't been much more than decent but he went to liverpool for £12m , we sold Adebayor (a better player) to spurs for £5m , the reason for the value differences bargaining power; Chelsea were n't too fussed either way they were open to selling him but were n't neccessarily committed to it unless there was a good deal to be made. City wanted Adebayor of the books, we had already loaned him out twice, replaced him with other strikers and caught in a wage dispute, Spurs liked the player but knew they could get him on the cheap so were n't inclined to rush in and put in a decent to get him early on.Wolfsburg on the other hand were inclined to get their man as soon as possible to rescue what has been an appalling season for them.

You can be a smart arse all you want but Wolfsburg have a history of getting the best out of Croats and Bosnians, also look at their squad a big mix of nationalites Dortmund is the reverse almost overwhelming german with three Poles and a Serb as key players, but even then Subotic has only ever played in the Bundesliga. I would put the difference between the teams down to style, what ever worked for misimovic, Dzeko and Mandzukic could also work for Perisic, the three players mentioned either doubled in price when sold or or went up almost ten fold in Dkezo's case. Maybe it is because Dortmund concentrate on development of the player within a system whilst Wolfsburg concentrate on development of specifically the player.

What ever it is you should know that a player does n't necessarily have to improve or rip up trees to increase in transfer value or be sold at a profit Adam Johnson's city career tailed off in the end but we still made a profit despite probably have spending too much on him for what he was at the time. Anelka's transfers have produced a mixture of profit and loss for his clubs and the loss is n't neccessarily tied in with form.

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I think you chaps simply define success on different merrits.

Not saying one of you is wrong or right but i doubt you will come to an agreement gents :)
An agreement to disagree may be the best solution here ? :)
 
seen report on SSN that Chelski have agreed a deal to sign Taison from Metalist Karkiv - he is an attacking midfielder.

That means they would have Mata, Hazard, Oscar and then Taison if this went through. They seem to be overloading their midfield to me in an area where they already have options available.

But thats Chelski for you !!!

<a class="postlink" href="http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8384281/Chelsea-are-closing-in-on-the-signing-of-Metalist-Kharkiv-midfielder-Taison" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... der-Taison</a>
 
BlueMoonz1977 said:
seen report on SSN that Chelski have agreed a deal to sign Taison from Metalist Karkiv - he is an attacking midfielder.

That means they would have Mata, Hazard, Oscar and then Taison if this went through. They seem to be overloading their midfield to me in an area where they already have options available.

But thats Chelski for you !!!

<a class="postlink" href="http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8384281/Chelsea-are-closing-in-on-the-signing-of-Metalist-Kharkiv-midfielder-Taison" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... der-Taison</a>


taison is more a classic winger than an AM. he's really blessed with pace
 
BlueMoonz1977 said:
seen report on SSN that Chelski have agreed a deal to sign Taison from Metalist Karkiv - he is an attacking midfielder.

That means they would have Mata, Hazard, Oscar and then Taison if this went through. They seem to be overloading their midfield to me in an area where they already have options available.

But thats Chelski for you !!!

<a class="postlink" href="http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8384281/Chelsea-are-closing-in-on-the-signing-of-Metalist-Kharkiv-midfielder-Taison" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... der-Taison</a>
Yes buts its okay for us to have 4 big name strikers.........

Oscer - 21
Mata - 24
Hazard - 21
Taison - 20

Looks promising for Chelsea but I still think to win the league they will need a world class striker like Falcao or Cavanni so I hope signing Ba will stop that.

Anyone know the alleged fee for Taison?
 

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