Offside rule changed after Cancelo's goal against WBA

so for 40 years you never berated and got angry at the decisions made by the ref and just accepted a ref giving a blatant dive and a lino missing a blatant offside ?

fair play. i would be happy to scrap VAR if every fan was like you.
That was football mate, win some lose some, seen some horrendous decisions over the years but accepted them, don’t get me wrong, I moaned like fuck every time.. Players were diving long before VAR fucked the game up, shed loads of pens given for diving cheats since VAR darkened our door ...
 
That was football mate, win some lose some, seen some horrendous decisions over the years but accepted them, don’t get me wrong, I moaned like fuck every time.. Players were diving long before VAR fucked the game up, shed loads of pens given for diving cheats since VAR darkened our door ...

this is where we are different, you are happy to accept horrendous decisions - I personally can not and felt especially in the last few years that the speed of the game is so fast, the cheating is so good by players diving and then you have hostile crowds appealing for everything - the Refs needed help, i just think it's wrong we have to force them to make at times a blind guess - whilst everyone else at home can see what's actually happened with the benefit of replays.

VAR has not been great at all, i knew it wouldn't at first and i'm happy to accept alot of it is trial and error because there are so many gray areas in football - but the good thing is VAR/lawmakers will always look at ways to improve it. they couldn't improve a ref and a couple lino's to the modern game much longer.

slowly it has already improved, there is less outcry about decisions then there was last season and alot of people actually get angry when a player has scored and is correctly ruled out for offside that a lino would not have spotted. that's crazy to me.
 
this is where we are different, you are happy to accept horrendous decisions - I personally can not and felt especially in the last few years that the speed of the game is so fast, the cheating is so good by players diving and then you have hostile crowds appealing for everything - the Refs needed help, i just think it's wrong we have to force them to make at times a blind guess - whilst everyone else at home can see what's actually happened with the benefit of replays.

VAR has not been great at all, i knew it wouldn't at first and i'm happy to accept alot of it is trial and error because there are so many gray areas in football - but the good thing is VAR/lawmakers will always look at ways to improve it. they couldn't improve a ref and a couple lino's to the modern game much longer.

slowly it has already improved, there is less outcry about decisions then there was last season and alot of people actually get angry when a player has scored and is correctly ruled out for offside that a lino would not have spotted. that's crazy to me.
In terms of offside it’s simple, change the rule so clear daylight is needed between the attacker and defender, dead easy for lino’s then, VAR hasn’t stopped diving at all.. They change the rules every 5 mins to suit these days but not to help officials .... Football is a simple game, it’s been over complicated and it’s over analysed to the detriment of the game.
I will concede that VAR isn’t going away, if it’s going to be successful, it needs a root and branch overhaul, as do the rules for offside, handball and what constitutes a foul, it’s a contact sport but any form of contact is penalised these days.... The buzzword is, inconsistency, in the application of the rules ...
 
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In terms of offside it’s simple, change the rule so clear daylight is needed between the attacker and defender, dead easy for lino’s then, VAR hasn’t stopped diving at all.. They change the rules every 5 mins to suit these days but not to help officials .... Football is a simple game, it’s been over complicated and it’s over analysed to the detriment of the game.
I will concede that VAR isn’t going away, if it’s going to be successful, it needs a root and branch overhaul, as do the rules for offside, handball and what constitutes a foul, it’s a contact sport but any form of contact is penalised these days.... The buzzword is inconsistency in the application of the rules ...

Spot on.
Especially the last line,as seemingly,if the complaints are loud enough from TV pundits and other media the rules get changed sharpish too.
 
Spot on.
Especially the last line,as seemingly,if the complaints are loud enough from TV pundits and other media the rules get changed sharpish too.

exactly, hence why there's no anti-Salah or anti-Penandes rule for penalties but the minute we get a vital goal using a law established decades ago within a few days we get an anti-Plodri rule.
 
If that was the only goal we'd scored vs West Brom then, pre-VAR, we'd have been robbed of two points just because a linesman did something indescribably stupid. Because of VAR the goal stood. Doesn't sound like fucking

If that was the only goal we'd scored vs West Brom then, pre-VAR, we'd have been robbed of two points just because a linesman did something indescribably stupid. Because of VAR the goal stood. Doesn't sound like fucking it up to me.
It wasn't.
Ive seen us robbed of, and awarded, goals by reffing mistakes for 56 years and it has never altered my love of the game. Nowadays a bit of that love is eroded every time I see 'VAR checking'
 
It wasn't.
Ive seen us robbed of, and awarded, goals by reffing mistakes for 56 years and it has never altered my love of the game. Nowadays a bit of that love is eroded every time I see 'VAR checking'
It quickly became the 'dead' hand of football. I think it would be improved immeasurably if the ref were to boom out what they were checking for in the same manner as we have refs in American football explaining what's goin' on!
 
VAR has not been great at all, i knew it wouldn't at first and i'm happy to accept alot of it is trial and error because there are so many gray areas in football - but the good thing is VAR/lawmakers will always look at ways to improve it.

"Gray areas"? Many created by VAR.

"Gray" suggests you do not go back far enough to when players let alone officials had a clear understanding of offside. VAR changes to the the laws have obfuscated rather than clarified.
 
Sky Sports aren’t happy.

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On the OS Extended highlights package it clearly shows he was onside when the ball was played -on the replay there is a line drawn on the screen and at least one WBA player was closer to the goal - the lineslady got it wrong.
 
I must admit i thought the lines woman got the decision correct, i know where VAR put the lines and out of the two my money is still on her, as her accuracy is vastly superior to Swarbrick`s, just remember the media will use this to show how we benefited from VAR albeit the second of five goals, all that said she should not have raised her flag on a decision so tight even if it is down to the ref to whistle.
 
I must admit i thought the lines woman got the decision correct, i know where VAR put the lines and out of the two my money is still on her, as her accuracy is vastly superior to Swarbrick`s, just remember the media will use this to show how we benefited from VAR albeit the second of five goals, all that said she should not have raised her flag on a decision so tight even if it is down to the ref to whistle.

She got it wrong, originally you couldn’t see all the WBA players in the picture.
 

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