Oleksandr Zinchenko | Joins Arsenal for £30m

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MeatHunterrr said:
Looks like he likes his comfort zone here and wants to sit on the stands. Didn't even make the squad for CS
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Bit harsh.

Young, hungry player who's already played several times for us. Great attitude, versatile, good technique and clever on the ball.

Potentially 7th choice midfielder meaning one injury puts him in the B team. Could get 30 games easy.
 
At least he wants to stay for footballing reasons. Far too often we have seen players refusing to leave because they don't want to give up their fat, City paycheck.
 
All that palaver earlier about Manchester weather and the lure of the Mediterranean. Wouldn’t take long in Wolverhampton to appreciate what he has. :-)

Fighting for your place is an admirable notion, but when you don’t actually have a place for which to fight, it does seem a rather futile gesture. That said, sticking around served him well last year, so perhaps he will find game time this year, too.
 
NQCitizen said:
Bit harsh.

Young, hungry player who's already played several times for us. Great attitude, versatile, good technique and clever on the ball.

Potentially 7th choice midfielder meaning one injury puts him in the B team. Could get 30 games easy.
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Come on now. In what world he is going to get enough game time to develop? Foden, Diaz ahead of him in AM, Douglas Luiz if he gets his permit ahead of him in DM, Gundogan as well, maybe even Stones. Delph, Danilo and Laporte ahead of him in LB cover. Its impossible for him to game time basically unless major injury crisis happens.

Nothing against the kid but in terms of his career, he has made terrible decision. He wants to fight for a place despite having no place to fight for. Interesting concept. Reeks of comfort zone to me.
 
OrigamiNinja said:
At least he wants to stay for footballing reasons. Far too often we have seen players refusing to leave because they don't want to give up their fat, City paycheck.
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Footballing reasons??

Sorry but even near the end of last season without Mendy fully fit he went about 7 weeks without even making the bench.

Now Mendy is fit. He is 3rd choice LB maybe 4th, and something like 7th choice midfield.

He won’t be making the squad in any PL or CL match unless we have 3 players injured. He may make bench in the league cup or FA cup.

Wouldn’t call that staying for footballing reasons. Quite the opposite actually.
 
MeatHunterrr said:
Come on now. In what world he is going to get enough game time to develop? Foden, Diaz ahead of him in AM, Douglas Luiz if he gets his permit ahead of him in DM, Gundogan as well, maybe even Stones. Delph, Danilo and Laporte ahead of him in LB cover. Its impossible for him to game time basically unless major injury crisis happens.

Nothing against the kid but in terms of his career, he has made terrible decision. He wants to fight for a place despite having no place to fight for. Interesting concept. Reeks of comfort zone to me.
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I'm not convinced Diaz is ahead of him in the CM spot. Luiz might not get a permit (I thought his space in the squad was dependent on Zinchenko going? Might be wrong). If Delph is LB back up it leaves 6 players ahead of him for the midfield spots (and possibly stones if he's not at the back) with Dave getting reduced minutes, Kev with no pre season, Foden young and injury prone, Gundogan injury prone, Bernardo and Ferna who went to the world cup and is 33.

Even then arguably if we play 3-5-2 Zin could be second line to Mendy.

Pep has already trusted him in huge games I just don't know what there is to suggest he won't get used at all this season.
 
MeatHunterrr said:
Come on now. In what world he is going to get enough game time to develop? Foden, Diaz ahead of him in AM, Douglas Luiz if he gets his permit ahead of him in DM, Gundogan as well, maybe even Stones. Delph, Danilo and Laporte ahead of him in LB cover. Its impossible for him to game time basically unless major injury crisis happens.

Nothing against the kid but in terms of his career, he has made terrible decision. He wants to fight for a place despite having no place to fight for. Interesting concept. Reeks of comfort zone to me.
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When did Douglas Luiz become world class? Zinchenko played more minutes than Luiz last season (almost double) that too in our team and in a tougher league
 
BlueByBlood said:
When did Douglas Luiz become world class? Zinchenko played more minutes than Luiz last season (almost double) that too in our team and in a tougher league
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We wouldn't be asking work permit for Douglas Luiz if Zinchenko was ahead of him. Would be pointless in that case.
 
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