One for the doom and gloomers

I am far from being a moaner and looking at the stats it shows signs of encouragement but we cannot disguise our current away form. You can argue that most of our defeats are down to individual error and not complete dominance from the home team but 4 points away 18 is grim reading. Still there is time for us turn that around.
 
Who have they compared the Hull and Cardiff games to? Obviously not our results against reading and wigan (12pts from 4)
 
But some teams are better, some worse. Every season is different. You play teams at different stages of the season, with different weather conditions, with teams and players in different form, with new players or different injured/suspended to years past...there's no comparison to be made, not in this way or comparing our first 11 games of last season or our title winning season. Everything is different.
 
Benjamin Disraeli said. "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

It is a bit of fun but those figures don't really mean a thing.
 
It is surprising that we have more points. So surprising that I was said enough to check and yes indeed it is correct. 19 pts vs 16 in the same fixtures last year.

However, that does include a loss at home to Norwich last season - a game we effectively just threw away because the season was over and we couldn't be arsed.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Who have they compared the Hull and Cardiff games to? Obviously not our results against reading and wigan (12pts from 4)

Yes. 1st in division 2 swaps with 18th in last years premier league. 2nd with 19th, playoff winner with 20th.

We have made up points from Norwich (3), Rags (3) and Everton (2) and West Ham (2) away. Dropped points at Cardiff (3), Villa (3) and Chelsea (1) away.
 
Ray78 said:
I am far from being a moaner and looking at the stats it shows signs of encouragement but we cannot disguise our current away form. You can argue that most of our defeats are down to individual error and not complete dominance from the home team but 4 points away 18 is grim reading. Still there is time for us turn that around.
Agree but another reason we're dropping away points IMO is that since Cardiff we are viewed by all teams as a team who can be "had".
A bit soft, a bit lacking in fight.
We need to change the mindset of the lesser teams when we visit them to "we'll give it a go but don't expect too much. There'll be a better chance next week".
They already seem to think this when at our place so let's get them looking at our visit with dread not relishing it.
 
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Deepest Blue said:
... we are viewed by all teams as a team who can be "had".
A bit soft, a bit lacking in fight.
We need to change the mindset of the lesser teams when we visit them to "we'll give it a go but don't expect too much. There'll be a better chance next week".
They already seem to think this when at our place so let's get them looking at our visit with dread not relishing it.

I agree. Incidentally, here's a quote from the Spurs forum:

a bloke on the Spurs forum said:
It's City at the Etihad, they crush most teams there. I know we all want to play more creative players but this isn't the game to do that. United at home we can try something different, our main priority for this match should be to stay solid and not concede.

Our last win there was in 09/10, we played Crouch and Defoe up front with Modric and Huddlestone in the middle. If that team played the City of 13/14 they would get destroyed, you can't go there and play an open game anymore.
 

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