Osborne ' s emergency budget 5 months late?

[hilts]

I know Len, the solution to going increasingly further into debt, is, wait for it, SPEND MORE. That utter buffoon McDonell is spouting his wisdom as we speak. We're in this terrible position BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SPENT ENOUGH. Sorry, I mean "invested" enough. Sounds better than spending.

Had we spent MORE, we'd now owe even less. Of course, why didn't the silly Tories realise that. Silly, naughty Tories.

I think what they are trying to say is

Dont let people have a say because politicians know best except the ones they don't like as history has shown us
Spend more money as this raises GDP, if we hit a recession spend even more and if this doesn't work spend even more because we didn't spend enough in the first place
Increase the population as much as possible so they can do the jobs we don't want to plus it pays for our pensioners. As our population grows and gets older keep increasing the population.
Once the correct government is in place that does all the above ban all future referendums and elections as to prevent the people fucking it up.

Basically we need a left wing dictatorship in a country that isn't left wing.

 

[SWP's back]

I think what they are trying to say is

Dont let people have a say because politicians know best except the ones they don't like as history has shown us
Spend more money as this raises GDP, if we hit a recession spend even more and if this doesn't work spend even more because we didn't spend enough in the first place
Increase the population as much as possible so they can do the jobs we don't want to plus it pays for our pensioners. As our population grows and gets older keep increasing the population.
Once the correct government is in place that does all the above ban all future referendums and elections as to prevent the people fucking it up.

Basically we need a left wing dictatorship in a country that isn't left wing.

Nailed on head.

 

[aguero93:20]

I absolutely agree - the situation we're in is shit. However, part 1 was a given when the coalition/Tories took over. They could either increase spending to borrow tons on top of excessive borrowing to start with, or they could try this belt tightening. I think that as shit as it is at the moment, the other scenario would cause much bigger problems further down the line.

It wasn't aimed at one party or the other bud.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Isn't it all relative , we never compare really against other economies in the world. I reckon other than Germany the economy and the feeling of wealth is better here than anywhere else in Europe. Isn't that we have so many people are wanting to come work and live in the uk?

Just using your eyes there is plenty of investment in Manchester, cranes everywhere and new developments. At the weekends from early afternoon right through to late at night the bars and restaurants are full and people are queuing outside to get in.

Unemployment is at its lowest rate and people feel very happy paying 2.50 for a coffee plenty of times a day.

It feels pretty good in Manchester at the moment and the negativity of Brexit (even though we have not left yet and we have no idea whether we will or in what form) seems to keep popping up as some form of excuse (just in case).

Yes the pounds low but interest rates are low too. If they increased interest rates a little it might help head off inflation and start to control the out of control housing market.

Nothing particularly of interest in this budget.

 

[smudgedj]

Wouldn't make a jot of difference where I live .

Sorry about that, I dropped into robotic labour mode then. Back to reality now.

 

[inbetween]

Isn't it all relative , we never compare really against other economies in the world. I reckon other than Germany the economy and the feeling of wealth is better here than anywhere else in Europe. Isn't that we have so many people are wanting to come work and live in the uk?

Just using your eyes there is plenty of investment in Manchester, cranes everywhere and new developments. At the weekends from early afternoon right through to late at night the bars and restaurants are full and people are queuing outside to get in.

Unemployment is at its lowest rate and people feel very happy paying 2.50 for a coffee plenty of times a day.

It feels pretty good in Manchester at the moment and the negativity of Brexit (even though we have not left yet and we have no idea whether we will or in what form) seems to keep popping up as some form of excuse (just in case).

Yes the pounds low but interest rates are low too. If they increased interest rates a little it might help head off inflation and start to control the out of control housing market.

Nothing particularly of interest in this budget.

This is my feeling too.

Goto the Xmas markets on a Saturday night, no-one is short of money I can tell you that. I swear I am the only one who doesn't have an Audi/BMW or just nipping off on holiday for the 5th time this year.

Every bugger also has an iPhone 7 too, iPads etc etc etc. If there are seriously impoverished people in their multi-millions then I don't know where they are because they aren't stuck in the queues into retail parks or like you mentioned queued out the door to get a £4 Starbucks.

I judge the state of the country by the chippy queues and business is seemingly booming.

 

[hilts]

Isn't it all relative , we never compare really against other economies in the world. I reckon other than Germany the economy and the feeling of wealth is better here than anywhere else in Europe. Isn't that we have so many people are wanting to come work and live in the uk?

Just using your eyes there is plenty of investment in Manchester, cranes everywhere and new developments. At the weekends from early afternoon right through to late at night the bars and restaurants are full and people are queuing outside to get in.

Unemployment is at its lowest rate and people feel very happy paying 2.50 for a coffee plenty of times a day.

It feels pretty good in Manchester at the moment and the negativity of Brexit (even though we have not left yet and we have no idea whether we will or in what form) seems to keep popping up as some form of excuse (just in case).

Yes the pounds low but interest rates are low too. If they increased interest rates a little it might help head off inflation and start to control the out of control housing market.

Nothing particularly of interest in this budget.

In the grand scheme of these things it isn't that bad but we are a country of moaners, if we didn't talk everything down so much we might be doing better, remember most people especially politicians have a motive and it usually involves furthering their own career.

 

[Vic]

Listening to the forecast of extra debt Labour MPs should have been shouting "We're maxed out"

The other thought as the effects of Brexit were lined up was the obvious one - why are we doing it? Worth it for some mythical control on borders ? We will have a labour shortage in ten years and need immigrants to pay tax to keep the pensions show on the road.

 

[hilts]

Listening to the forecast of extra debt Labour MPs should have been shouting "We're maxed out"

The other thought as the effects of Brexit were lined up was the obvious one - why are we doing it? Worth it for some mythical control on borders ? We will have a labour shortage in ten years and need immigrants to pay tax to keep the pensions show on the road.

You do know leaving the EU doesn't mean no immigration right?

 

[Len Rum]

I think what they are trying to say is

Dont let people have a say because politicians know best except the ones they don't like as history has shown us
Spend more money as this raises GDP, if we hit a recession spend even more and if this doesn't work spend even more because we didn't spend enough in the first place
Increase the population as much as possible so they can do the jobs we don't want to plus it pays for our pensioners. As our population grows and gets older keep increasing the population.
Once the correct government is in place that does all the above ban all future referendums and elections as to prevent the people fucking it up.

Basically we need a left wing dictatorship in a country that isn't left wing.

If I could make a few points on your post:
We live in a democracy with free elections so the "people can have a say".
Tories will have spent a trillion more than the country earned in the ten years 2010 to 2020.
Our economy has become dependent on immigrant workers, skilled and unskilled ( particularly in and around London)and we have "full" employment. The Tories are only promising to 'control' immigration from the EU once we exit, not reduce it