P & O

Unfortunately nothing will change. Outrage will be voiced in the house of commons, strong protests sent to P&O head office but no action will be taken, the 800 will sadly lose doing a job most loved and did brilliantly and they will continue sailing with a mish mash of foreign crew. Those crew will have even less rights than the poor sods sacked, be paid less, work longer hours and have no legal representation. They will be bullied and I guarantee work hours over their scheduled rosters on many occasions, so compromising their health and the safety of all onboard.

A small local community, Dover and the surrounding areas will be devastated. P&O have a long sullied history of treating their crew deplorably, in particular British seafarers. They have two brand new double ended ferries coming into the Dover/Calais route next year. These will carry more feight and passengers and have quicker turn around times in port. This will mean more stress and less rest on crews but obviously it will increase profit. That's what it's all about, profit. They now have crew onboard paid peanuts. The company don't have to pay any sick pay, leave pay, national insurance and more importantly for them pension money. They have dragged their feet paying what they owe and agreed to pay to the MNRPF. A court ordered them to pay this money, to date they haven't done so. A company benefit of morals and conscience. A company that did something akin to this in 1988 when they sacked 2,000 workers for refusing to work under new inferior contracts. This was the days of Thatcher's Britain, few jobs, one in ten songs and Auf Wiedershen Pet. Reeling and with no other job prospects out there sadly after holding out for months enough of the workforce cracked and went back. Beefed up by rookies who due to all the previous stated jumped at the chance to take one of the jobs on offer. After all it paid more than the dole. I and many others did not, we stuck it out for sixteen long bitter months. I'd rather die than give in to bullies and something I know is morally wrong. Oh as a footnote they pulled this stunt almost a year to the day of the sinking of the Herald of Free Enterprise that resulted in the death of 193 passengers and crew. Yes, they brought in new working conditions that heaped more stress and fatigue on crew just a year after a a major disaster involving one of their ships. They also sacked crew that were given bravery awards for their heroism that night saving lives. Complete and utter cunts then and now.

Apologies for the long post. I'm out of it now so it doesn't effect me directly but to read, hear and see the utter heartbreak and devastation that it has caused to many of my old crew mates and friends is tough. Decent, dedicated hard working beautiful people. You see when you live and work together onboard a ship you become more than workmates you're family. One bleeds we all bleed. Fuck P&O and the corrupt souless employment laws and management that allow this misery to be heaped on good people
 
Unfortunately nothing will change. Outrage will be voiced in the house of commons, strong protests sent to P&O head office but no action will be taken, the 800 will sadly lose doing a job most loved and did brilliantly and they will continue sailing with a mish mash of foreign crew. Those crew will have even less rights than the poor sods sacked, be paid less, work longer hours and have no legal representation. They will be bullied and I guarantee work hours over their scheduled rosters on many occasions, so compromising their health and the safety of all onboard.

A small local community, Dover and the surrounding areas will be devastated. P&O have a long sullied history of treating their crew deplorably, in particular British seafarers. They have two brand new double ended ferries coming into the Dover/Calais route next year. These will carry more feight and passengers and have quicker turn around times in port. This will mean more stress and less rest on crews but obviously it will increase profit. That's what it's all about, profit. They now have crew onboard paid peanuts. The company don't have to pay any sick pay, leave pay, national insurance and more importantly for them pension money. They have dragged their feet paying what they owe and agreed to pay to the MNRPF. A court ordered them to pay this money, to date they haven't done so. A company benefit of morals and conscience. A company that did something akin to this in 1988 when they sacked 2,000 workers for refusing to work under new inferior contracts. This was the days of Thatcher's Britain, few jobs, one in ten songs and Auf Wiedershen Pet. Reeling and with no other job prospects out there sadly after holding out for months enough of the workforce cracked and went back. Beefed up by rookies who due to all the previous stated jumped at the chance to take one of the jobs on offer. After all it paid more than the dole. I and many others did not, we stuck it out for sixteen long bitter months. I'd rather die than give in to bullies and something I know is morally wrong. Oh as a footnote they pulled this stunt almost a year to the day of the sinking of the Herald of Free Enterprise that resulted in the death of 193 passengers and crew. Yes, they brought in new working conditions that heaped more stress and fatigue on crew just a year after a a major disaster involving one of their ships. They also sacked crew that were given bravery awards for their heroism that night saving lives. Complete and utter cunts then and now.

Apologies for the long post. I'm out of it now so it doesn't effect me directly but to read, hear and see the utter heartbreak and devastation that it has caused to many of my old crew mates and friends is tough. Decent, dedicated hard working beautiful people. You see when you live and work together onboard a ship you become more than workmates you're family. One bleeds we all bleed. Fuck P&O and the corrupt souless employment laws and management that allow this misery to be heaped on good people
I see people keep referring to the replacements as "foreign", that's not necessarily true. They're all from an agency as far as I've seen and could be of any nationality.
 
I see people keep referring to the replacements as "foreign", that's not necessarily true. They're all from an agency as far as I've seen and could be of any nationality.

I've hear Colombian but I find that difficult to believe. It will be a mixture. Most of the agency crew I worked with on there were Polish, Latvian and Russian.
 
I must admit I would rather listen to some good music and watch city than put my finger up someone's arse.

Interesting I read that if you want to convince your other half to have anal sex you need to start with finger in the ass first. Let her get comfortable with that feeling then put two fingers in. When she is ok with that the dick is not a problem
 
Interesting I read that if you want to convince your other half to have anal sex you need to start with finger in the ass first. Let her get comfortable with that feeling then put two fingers in. When she is ok with that the dick is not a problem
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Not happy with the sacking of British workers - even unhappier that cheaper foreign labour will take their place nor that EU jobs remain safe - this is literally what he voted for and he won it and still won't own it

 
I am late to this thread.

I am confused as some press/media say the workers were sacked. Some press/media say made redundant.

If the workers were sacked wouldnt that mean that they were each given one verbal warning and two written warnings ?. What will they have done to warrant being sacked immediately, normally its something like fighting a work colleague.

If they were made redundant they is a procedure to follow. Also does this mean that P&O have to change 800 job titles to get round the redundancy ?

Or don't P&O have to work within British law ?
 
I am late to this thread.

I am confused as some press/media say the workers were sacked. Some press/media say made redundant.

If the workers were sacked wouldnt that mean that they were each given one verbal warning and two written warnings ?. What will they have done to warrant being sacked immediately, normally its something like fighting a work colleague.

If they were made redundant they is a procedure to follow. Also does this mean that P&O have to change 800 job titles to get round the redundancy ?

Or don't P&O have to work within British law ?
They were told their employment was to end by video message. It can't have been mass sackings as there were no disciplinary hearings. However I'm sure the media added to the confusion by saying staff had been sacked.
Early reports said there would be generous redundancy payments though no details were made public and it doesn't appear P&O followed any recognised procedures.
Ministers are claiming to be upset and are talking big, P&O don't really care.
 

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