Pacy Wingers better than Navas in EPL

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neel

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There is lots of talk of Navas not making use of his pace and skills in talkng on defenders,his finishing and his poor last ball.
Was thinking of pacy wingers in EPL who are better than him. I can think of only 4 below who look better.
Your thoughts

Di Maria (Due of his finishing and shooting)
Hazard
Sanchez (Tought his first goal yesterday was an example of taking on defenders and scoring)
Sterling
Navas
 
Di maria and Hazard are the best in the league as of now,Sterling not on the same level,he was good when Suarez was with liverpool and when there was loads of space for others to exploit,but not so good in a poor liverpool team,although would like to see him improve.Navas looked good yesterday but does not quite beat defenders or run at them with pace like hazard or di maria,but he is v good with the ball technically a bit like Silva.
 
I'd have to watch him again but I've never regarded Di Maria to be pacy in the way navas or hazard are. Probably as he looks so fucking effortless the way he plays. A superb player but that is reflected in his price.
For the money we have a bargain in navas. He played well again yesterday and I believe would have been even better had Zabaleta played. Not to take anything away from sagna, but he looked a bit lost at times during interplay between the two. Navas can look a bit like a headless chicken I suppose, at rare times, basically just because he's so rapid. I like him though and as I say for the price we have a cracking little player.
 
Yeah, but do any of the others track back like Navas?

I have to say I'm glad we have Sagna for cover but really not at Zabba's level. Hopefully we'll be able to teach him he doesn't have to just stick to the line and can work with his partner on that side.
 
Ed68 said:
Yeah, but do any of the others track back like Navas?

I have to say I'm glad we have Sagna for cover but really not at Zabba's level. Hopefully we'll be able to teach him he doesn't have to just stick to the line and can work with his partner on that side.
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That is a very fair point, and despite the infuriating offensive flaws Navas has, nobody can deny that defensively he is way better at tracking back than any of those mentioned.

Almost gets me thinking that he needs to gain 2 stone and consider becoming a full back/ wing back!
 
Can't be just me who thinks Navas is class, doesn't have a poor last ball ( usually in the danger zone ) doesn't need to go bombing past the full back every time he gets the ball as we play possession football.
 
allan harper said:
Can't be just me who thinks Navas is class, doesn't have a poor last ball ( usually in the danger zone ) doesn't need to go bombing past the full back every time he gets the ball as we play possession football.
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Agree with this.
 
Pigeonho said:
I'd have to watch him again but I've never regarded Di Maria to be pacy in the way navas or hazard are. Probably as he looks so fucking effortless the way he plays. A superb player but that is reflected in his price.
For the money we have a bargain in navas. He played well again yesterday and I believe would have been even better had Zabaleta played. Not to take anything away from sagna, but he looked a bit lost at times during interplay between the two. Navas can look a bit like a headless chicken I suppose, at rare times, basically just because he's so rapid. I like him though and as I say for the price we have a cracking little player.
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For the moment at least, Navas and Sagna really have no idea what the other is going to do, but then I think we have this problem to some degree with Zab too. Unlike Silva or Nasri, he has the pace to make his own chances - He doesn't need to play the through ball to an overlapping fullback like we see so often with Zab or Kolarov. This means we're always seeing him try to run to the byline whilst his fullback is damn near running with him on his heels.

Something that's definitely unappreciated with Navas though is both his defensive contribution, which many think is rubbish because he's a wiry little Spanish winger when it's actually brilliant, and his ability to make any opposition fullback think twice about running the length of the wing when they know they'll have to try and chase him back. He can also maintain his tempo for an entire game rather than in spurts, so whatever you get at the beginning you tend to get at the end.
 
for the price we paid for him he represents great value though. i think hes an important member of the squad .. we needed a winger with electric pace and got one for just 17 million

if any of our wingers need replacing it is james milner.
 
MaineRoadBlue said:
Ed68 said:
Yeah, but do any of the others track back like Navas?

I have to say I'm glad we have Sagna for cover but really not at Zabba's level. Hopefully we'll be able to teach him he doesn't have to just stick to the line and can work with his partner on that side.
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That is a very fair point, and despite the infuriating offensive flaws Navas has, nobody can deny that defensively he is way better at tracking back than any of those mentioned.

Almost gets me thinking that he needs to gain 2 stone and consider becoming a full back/ wing back!
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Get yourself out of the 1970s FFS....

Cracking little player Navas, Spurs must dread playing against him....
 
Get frustrated with him not using his pace to bomb past the full back at times. It's when we need to break quickly that he can get frustrating especially when he starts meandering into midfield only to find himself almost on the opposite touch line! It's up to the forwards to get in the middle and him to beat his man and put the balls in for them.

Overall for the money a bargain. Do we need someone better yes - DI Maria would have been good but nit at that price.

P.S. If Navas had been left on the pitch in Munich he would have been covering Boateng (that's another plus for him because he does defend).
 
Wonder if anyone else in the team ever thought of putting in these low class balls in with pace like Navas always does,so effective !
 
I'd like to see him attack the far post more often and chip in with a more appropriate amount of goals for someone in his position, but other than that I'm delighted with what he does. He goes down the line, terrifies defenders, whips dangerous crosses along the ground, plays it sensible when necesary and does his part defensively.

Not too many old fashioned wingers around these days, most cut inside and shoot rather than go down the line and cross and he's probably in the top 5 or 10 of them, I struggle to think of any decent ones in England other than him, since Valencia seemed to fall apart.
 
The thing is we don't play with pacy wingers, Navas in general is a very good plan B, yes there are better wingers but they would want to be first choice in a plan A. Plus a lot of his final balls are accurate ground level crosses which we need, not hopeful in the air crosses.
I do think we could add somebody like Reus or Sterling to the squad but they won't play as a traditional winger,
 
neel said:
There is lots of talk of Navas not making use of his pace and skills in talkng on defenders,his finishing and his poor last ball.
Was thinking of pacy wingers in EPL who are better than him. I can think of only 4 below who look better.
Your thoughts

Di Maria (Due of his finishing and shooting)
Hazard
Sanchez (Tought his first goal yesterday was an example of taking on defenders and scoring)
Sterling
Navas
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Navas ? Poor last ball ? GET A FOOKING GRIP ! Dear Me !
 
I liked Navas but I think he had a poor game yesterday. Got in great positions but his final ball was terrible!
 
I don't want an Andros Townsend and Navas has a great work rate,tracks back brilliantly and effectively and is usually pretty good at keeping possession.

However, I do wish at times he'd take the more risky option, as losing the ball that far up the pitch is not that risky, especially in the premier league. Bale be came the world's most expensive player by knocking the ball 15 yds past the fullback and then beating him to it. Navas doesn't need to do that every time, but doing it occasionally makes the fullback less confident about what you're going to do, making it easier for him to cut inside as well. There was one point yesterday where he probably had half the pitch in front of him with just the keeper to beat, but he half paused then set off again - if he knocked the ball 10 yds then accelerated he'd have been clean one and one but he was looking for support.

They need to get him stood in front of a mirror shouting 'I'm a tiger, GRRR!!!'
 
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