Palestine Action

Missing the point, deliberately I assume.

Can you imagine the briefing?

"They may be saying nothing. They may be old, pregnant, or disabled. But if they have a placard saying 'I support Palestine Action' they are committing an offence under the Terrorism Act. I know, you know, they are doing anything that yesterday was illegal, but it is illegal today. You may think it's daft. You may think it's a waste of police time, and you'd rather either be catching villains, or be taking your rest day. But I don't want the Daily Fascist saying we're stood there allowing terrorist offences to be committed."

Just checking, when you say "If the people arrested had wanted to engage in peaceful protest then they would not have been arrested" are you saying that standing quietly with a placard is not peaceful?
It would save us all time, and it would frankly be more honest, if you just admitted that you want one set of laws for people that you don’t agree with, and another set - or to simply ignore the law - when it comes to people that you do agree with.

It’s the only logical conclusion to draw from your continued nonsense and bluster. I’m afraid this is just another thing you’ve got badly and rather embarrassingly wrong.
 
Roger waters is a terrorist now apparently. What the israel lobby wants, the israel lobby gets. Regardless of how ridiculous it is


"He also shared a hand-written sign he’d made, which read: “Roger Waters supports Palestine Action 5th July 2025. Parliament has been corrupted by agents of a genocidal foreign power. Stand up and be counted its now.”

Correct

What a fucking waste of time for the counter terror police. All because the israel lobby wants to silence people, everywhere, from speaking up against the ongoing going Israeli genocide
 
Roger waters is a terrorist now apparently. What the israel lobby wants, the israel lobby gets. Regardless of how ridiculous it is


"He also shared a hand-written sign he’d made, which read: “Roger Waters supports Palestine Action 5th July 2025. Parliament has been corrupted by agents of a genocidal foreign power. Stand up and be counted its now.”

Correct

What a fucking waste of time for the counter terror police. All because the israel lobby wants to silence people, everywhere, from speaking up against the ongoing going Israeli genocide
Was he wearing his Nazi uniform in the video?

I’m not sure you’re doing yourself any favours supporting this bloke.
 
Roger waters is a terrorist now apparently. What the israel lobby wants, the israel lobby gets. Regardless of how ridiculous it is


"He also shared a hand-written sign he’d made, which read: “Roger Waters supports Palestine Action 5th July 2025. Parliament has been corrupted by agents of a genocidal foreign power. Stand up and be counted its now.”

Correct

What a fucking waste of time for the counter terror police. All because the israel lobby wants to silence people, everywhere, from speaking up against the ongoing going Israeli genocide

He's been on the right side of history for a long time has Roger. Fuckin legend.
 
It would save us all time, and it would frankly be more honest, if you just admitted that you want one set of laws for people that you don’t agree with, and another set - or to simply ignore the law - when it comes to people that you do agree with.

It’s the only logical conclusion to draw from your continued nonsense and bluster. I’m afraid this is just another thing you’ve got badly and rather embarrassingly wrong.
Who's ignoring the law?

There's a case for disobeying one law in order to prevent a more serious crime. It's really not that difficult to grasp.

And that's nothing to do with definitions of terrorism, legal or otherwise.
 
Who's ignoring the law?

There's a case for disobeying one law in order to prevent a more serious crime. It's really not that difficult to grasp.

And that's nothing to do with definitions of terrorism, legal or otherwise.
He's already stated that active robberies and alike crimes should not be dealt with before someone holding up a Palestine Action placard condemning the Genocide. That crime comes first for the police.
 
Who's ignoring the law?

There's a case for disobeying one law in order to prevent a more serious crime. It's really not that difficult to grasp.

And that's nothing to do with definitions of terrorism, legal or otherwise.
"There's a case for disobeying one law in order to prevent a more serious crime."

Legal, moral, philosophical or even spiritual case...? You know three of those will take these pages on another dozen distracting and conflating pages, so let's skip the sweeping statements and cut to it
 
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Palestine Action like so many protest groups do not pick their targets intelligently. Even mild vandalism when practised against military aircraft was bound to trigger a serious response.
 


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Labelling Palestine Action a terrorist organisation has concerned me somewhat.
However, the UK legal deftion of terrorism does include indirectly supporting a foreign power as terrorism if they meet certain condions which typically includes damage to military equipment or facilities, violence or threats of violence intended to influence a government or intimidate the public for political, religious, or ideological purposes. This can also include actions that provide financial, logistical, or other forms of support to terrorist organizations or activities.
It can't be denied that the above has occured.
 
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Name a single serious crime that PA have prevented or could have prevented by damaging RAF air refuelling tankers given those tankers physically cannot refuel IAF aircraft and so physically cannot directly contribute to what Israel is doing? So what is this greater serious crime commited by the RAF?

The reality is you're saying that anybody should be allowed to damage any UK government assets simply because the UK government has a policy of supporting Israel in various forms.

Whatever next? Are you going to justify going into your local hospital and vandlising some of the £m's worth of pharmaceutical drugs that we import from Israel? Or what about your local supermarket and the £100ms worth of fruit and vegetables? It's a wild argument.
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll ask my pharmacist for alternatives to the tablets made by Teva, even if they're made in the UK.

 
Labelling Palestine Action a terrorist organisation has concerned me somewhat.
So it should.
However, the UK legal deftion of terrorism does include indirectly supporting a foreign power as terrorism
Who is the foreign power here? Palestine?
if they meet certain condions which typically includes damage to military equipment or facilities, violence or threats of violence intended to influence a government or intimidate the public for political, religious, or ideological purposes.
Reckon you have shoehorned the bolded bit in and aside from "intending to influence a government", none of the rest of it stacks up.
This can also include actions that provide financial, logistical, or other forms of support to terrorist organizations or activities.
None of which was relevant ... until they were proscribed.
It can't be denied that the above has occured.
One way to address your concerns I suppose.
 
Cheeky bastards, breaking into a military instillation and interfering with scheduled operations.

Luckily, their actions didn’t impinge too much on operational effectiveness, so a little slap on the wrist and a broken neck will suffice.
 
Who is the foreign power here? Palestine?
In this case Russia.
The damage to the planes effected our air defence.
The damage to Ebit suppliers effects the UK defence in general - not just Ebit.
So sorry to say, by the definition of the law as it currently stands they are terrorists for aiding and abetting a third country - in this case Russia.

Protest is one thing. Damaging UK defence is quite another.
 
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Cheeky bastards, breaking into a military instillation and interfering with scheduled operations.

Luckily, their actions didn’t impinge too much on operational effectiveness, so a little slap on the wrist and a broken neck will suffice.
Will they stump up the £40m to repair the engines and previous damage to UK defence suppliers.
I think not.
It's not trivial.
 
In this case Russia.
The damage to the planes effected our air defence.
The damage to Ebit suppliers effects the UK defence in general - not just Ebit.
So sorry to say, by the definition of the law as it currently stands they are terrorists for aiding and abetting a third country - in this case Russia.

Protest is one thing. Damaging UK defence is quite another.

You're making stuff up. Nothing in the definition of terrorism about aiding a third country.
 
Was he wearing his Nazi uniform in the video?

I’m not sure you’re doing yourself any favours supporting this bloke.

Errr, you're aware that he was performing The Wall on stage when he wore that outfit (it wasn't a Nazi uniform). Now you might not know this, but Roger Waters was in a band called Pink Floyd - they were pretty good. They did an album called The Wall that tells a story about a guy whose thoughts descend into fascism, and when doing gigs they don't just play but perform the Wall, hence Waters performing in a fascist outfit as he performs the album in the gigs. If you've ever listened to the Wall and you genuinely think that Waters was being a Nazi, then congratulations, you've completely missed one of the main points of one of the most influential and iconic albums ever made.

The Roger Waters smear is absolute textbook Israel lobby tactics - attacking good people speaking up against the constant israeli atrocities by cancelling their gigs, smearing them, calling the police etc, and as usual it is based on complete bullshit. Complete bullshit that you're so indoctrinated and gullible that you've fallen for, again.

Roger Waters has consistently supported human rights causes. His dad died in the war literally fighting Nazi's, so pretty disgusting to smear him like this, but as we've learned israel has no decency or moral standards at all.

“I have spent my entire life speaking out against authoritarianism and oppression where I set it… My parents fought the Nazis in World War II, with my father paying the ultimate price,” he said.

“Regardless of the consequences of the attacks against me, I will continue to condemn injustice and all those who perpetrate it.” Link

Roger Waters remains a great man. The Israel lobby are likely to up their efforts to smear and cancel him now that he has (very bravely) voiced his support for Palestine Action. So expect more smears and bullshit form the israel lobby, as they continue to silence people speaking up against the ongoing israeli genocide
 
Errr, you're aware that he was performing The Wall on stage when he wore that outfit (it wasn't a Nazi uniform). Now you might not know this, but Roger Waters was in a band called Pink Floyd - they were pretty good. They did an album called The Wall that tells a story about a guy whose thoughts descend into fascism, and when doing gigs they don't just play but perform the Wall, hence Waters performing in a fascist outfit as he performs the album in the gigs. If you've ever listened to the Wall and you genuinely think that Waters was being a Nazi, then congratulations, you've completely missed one of the main points of one of the most influential and iconic albums ever made.

The Roger Waters smear is absolute textbook Israel lobby tactics - attacking good people speaking up against the constant israeli atrocities by cancelling their gigs, smearing them, calling the police etc, and as usual it is based on complete bullshit. Complete bullshit that you're so indoctrinated and gullible that you've fallen for, again.

Roger Waters has consistently supported human rights causes. His dad died in the war literally fighting Nazi's, so pretty disgusting to smear him like this, but as we've learned israel has no decency or moral standards at all.

“I have spent my entire life speaking out against authoritarianism and oppression where I set it… My parents fought the Nazis in World War II, with my father paying the ultimate price,” he said.

“Regardless of the consequences of the attacks against me, I will continue to condemn injustice and all those who perpetrate it.” Link

Roger Waters remains a great man. The Israel lobby are likely to up their efforts to smear and cancel him now that he has (very bravely) voiced his support for Palestine Action. So expect more smears and bullshit form the israel lobby, as they continue to silence people speaking up against the ongoing israeli genocide
Israel has been built on a tissue of lies, myths and half truths since day one.
But reading what the first Zionist politicians, early Israeli leaders and generals have said, at least they were up front about what needed to be done to take over the whole of Palestine.
Bullets and helmets because they knew Palestinians would resist.
However the current Israeli government just lie, lie and lie, in the manner of Trump, and I'd say most of the population are happy to buy the bullshit.
 
Errr, you're aware that he was performing The Wall on stage when he wore that outfit (it wasn't a Nazi uniform). Now you might not know this, but Roger Waters was in a band called Pink Floyd - they were pretty good. They did an album called The Wall that tells a story about a guy whose thoughts descend into fascism, and when doing gigs they don't just play but perform the Wall, hence Waters performing in a fascist outfit as he performs the album in the gigs. If you've ever listened to the Wall and you genuinely think that Waters was being a Nazi, then congratulations, you've completely missed one of the main points of one of the most influential and iconic albums ever made.

The Roger Waters smear is absolute textbook Israel lobby tactics - attacking good people speaking up against the constant israeli atrocities by cancelling their gigs, smearing them, calling the police etc, and as usual it is based on complete bullshit. Complete bullshit that you're so indoctrinated and gullible that you've fallen for, again.

Roger Waters has consistently supported human rights causes. His dad died in the war literally fighting Nazi's, so pretty disgusting to smear him like this, but as we've learned israel has no decency or moral standards at all.

“I have spent my entire life speaking out against authoritarianism and oppression where I set it… My parents fought the Nazis in World War II, with my father paying the ultimate price,” he said.

“Regardless of the consequences of the attacks against me, I will continue to condemn injustice and all those who perpetrate it.” Link

Roger Waters remains a great man. The Israel lobby are likely to up their efforts to smear and cancel him now that he has (very bravely) voiced his support for Palestine Action. So expect more smears and bullshit form the israel lobby, as they continue to silence people speaking up against the ongoing israeli genocide
Yeah, believe it or not, I have heard of Pink Floyd and I am aware that Waters was part of it. Amazing, I know.

I’m also aware that David Gilmour was part of Pink Floyd, and I also happen to be aware of what Gilmour and his wife think of Waters. And the producer of that particular album you referenced had some interesting things to say about Waters as well.

Unlike yourself, they don’t seem to regard him as a ‘great man’. But I suppose you know him better, and have spent more time in Waters’ company, than any of them.
 
In this case Russia.
The damage to the planes effected our air defence.
The damage to Ebit suppliers effects the UK defence in general - not just Ebit.
So sorry to say, by the definition of the law as it currently stands they are terrorists for aiding and abetting a third country - in this case Russia.

Protest is one thing. Damaging UK defence is quite another.
Affect ffs.


And you’re talking shit.
 

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