Paulinho to Spurs

[mancboy]

If people cite caps as being the reason for him being a better player then they can look at the fact that Jo is in that team as a barometer as to how good that team is and also to point out what playing for a local team does for your chances of playing in that team.

-- Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:25 am --



They have one world class player who baled them out (excuse the pun) so many times last season it was laughable, just because they have signed one unknown midfielder who could be good or could flop much like fernandihno doesnt make them title contenders, sandro is this myth much like lucas at liverpool the more they dont play the better they become. Their defence needs looking at also as well as the steel in their midfield and also they are banking on bale to repeat last season which i doubt will happen.

But isn't he keeping Fernandinho out of the team? Surely that means he's the better midfielder or am I missing the point

You're missing the point. As has been said many. many times Brazil won't pick anyone playing in the likes of the Ukrainian leagues regardless of how good they are.
We'll all see who they better buy is once they've both settled into the same league. My money would be on Fernandinho but I'm a Blue so would say that :)

As usual bernarbia you're missing the point, on many occassions glen johnson has kept micah richards out of the england team, do you think glen johnson is better than micah richards

 

[oppa gangnam style]

It wont be easy to break in to that Brazil squad for Fernandinho.

Lucas, Sandro if they can avoid injuries they will want a place in that squad. If Sandro+Paulinho can form a good duo at Spurs they have a good chance of being in the squad. Luis Gustavo also a very good player.

Hope Fernandinho's big motivation stays the same even next year if he fails to get into the WC squad. We have to get at least 3 really good seasons out of him to justify his huge price.
Having the first right this season clearly gives him big chance to get into the WC squad but still it will be hard as other players are very good too in his position.

Paulinho is a great buy for Spurs clearly, he doesnt have the experience that Fernandinho, CL and playing in colder weather sometimes Brazilians just flop outside Brazil...
But was cheaper, still something like a club record fee for Spurs so huge pressure on him to perform.

If they keep Bale, add a striker and a good defender they probably finish in top4.

 

[totallywired]

Talksport stating a better player than Fernandinho. Younger Cheaper more caps. We shall see wankers

Well he does have more caps and is younger, so whats your problem?

 

[The_Mo]

But isn't he keeping Fernandinho out of the team? Surely that means he's the better midfielder or am I missing the point

You're missing the point. As has been said many. many times Brazil won't pick anyone playing in the likes of the Ukrainian leagues regardless of how good they are.
We'll all see who they better buy is once they've both settled into the same league. My money would be on Fernandinho but I'm a Blue so would say that :)

As usual bernarbia you're missing the point, on many occassions glen johnson has kept micah richards out of the england team, do you think glen johnson is better than micah richards

Glen Johnson is keeping Micah out because of the politics. Also Uncle Woy used to manage him at Liverpool.

 

[waspish]

Don't want him to be picked he will be fresh for us

 

[totallywired]

You're missing the point. As has been said many. many times Brazil won't pick anyone playing in the likes of the Ukrainian leagues regardless of how good they are.
We'll all see who they better buy is once they've both settled into the same league. My money would be on Fernandinho but I'm a Blue so would say that :)

As usual bernarbia you're missing the point, on many occassions glen johnson has kept micah richards out of the england team, do you think glen johnson is better than micah richards

Glen Johnson is keeping Micah out because of the politics. Also Uncle Woy used to manage him at Liverpool.

Micah is always injured, that does not help him. Would i rather have Johnson or Micah ? Not a chance on ability, but who plays more games?

 

[NipHolmes]

But isn't he keeping Fernandinho out of the team? Surely that means he's the better midfielder or am I missing the point

You're missing the point. As has been said many. many times Brazil won't pick anyone playing in the likes of the Ukrainian leagues regardless of how good they are.
We'll all see who they better buy is once they've both settled into the same league. My money would be on Fernandinho but I'm a Blue so would say that :)

As usual bernarbia you're missing the point, on many occassions glen johnson has kept micah richards out of the england team, do you think glen johnson is better than micah richards

Ray Lewington said the reason for this is because Hodgson likes overlapping players. Glen Johnson whilst inferior to Richards as a RB is a superior Wingback. Hence his inclusion. Baines and Johnson are his ideal players that fit with style of play preference.

 

[decmancity]

You're missing the point. As has been said many. many times Brazil won't pick anyone playing in the likes of the Ukrainian leagues regardless of how good they are.
We'll all see who they better buy is once they've both settled into the same league. My money would be on Fernandinho but I'm a Blue so would say that :)

As usual bernarbia you're missing the point, on many occassions glen johnson has kept micah richards out of the england team, do you think glen johnson is better than micah richards

Ray Lewington said the reason for this is because Hodgson likes overlapping players. Glen Johnson whilst inferior to Richards as a RB is a superior Wingback. Hence his inclusion. Baines and Johnson are his ideal players that fit with style of play preference.

Yet the funny thing is that Richards had the most combined goals and assists? during 2011-12?

Yet still didn't get into the England team.

 

[NipHolmes]

As usual bernarbia you're missing the point, on many occassions glen johnson has kept micah richards out of the england team, do you think glen johnson is better than micah richards

Johnsons delivery is seen as better and as I said, it's the overlapping. That came from Lewingtons mouth.

Richards is a better player imho.

My choice if England RBs
Richards
Johnson
Walker
Smalling



Ray Lewington said the reason for this is because Hodgson likes overlapping players. Glen Johnson whilst inferior to Richards as a RB is a superior Wingback. Hence his inclusion. Baines and Johnson are his ideal players that fit with style of play preference.

Yet the funny thing is that Richards had the most combined goals and assists? during 2011-12?

Yet still didn't get into the England team.

 

[BellLeeSumm]

Paulinho did look a bit tearful though, when he found
out it was Spurs he was signing for. Lol.

 

[jaden19]

Whilst it looks like he is on paper I think Scolari has been really pushing to use plenty of players from the Brazilian league as a way of creating a real identity and pride in the team from the fans.

As has been said Jo is there and has played and he hasn't even done that well in Brazil but hes well known and playing in the Brazilian League.

Personally I think Fernandinho is the better player, a lot more proven anyway.

Of course you will say that

there is a reason why Fernadinho isnt in the national team and Paulinho is. It's not like Paulinho was playing for one of the big teams in Europe either...

Plus Paulinho cost 17m, fernadinho 30m, and fernandinho is 28 years old. That's a huge free for a player that age who isnt a house hold name like yaya toure was

 

[City_Sean]

Looks a very good Player, I still trust our board though, Im sure we would have looked at Paulinho too and seen Fernandinho as a better bet.

 

[NipHolmes]

Whilst it looks like he is on paper I think Scolari has been really pushing to use plenty of players from the Brazilian league as a way of creating a real identity and pride in the team from the fans.

As has been said Jo is there and has played and he hasn't even done that well in Brazil but hes well known and playing in the Brazilian League.

Personally I think Fernandinho is the better player, a lot more proven anyway.

Of course you will say that

there is a reason why Fernadinho isnt in the national team and Paulinho is. It's not like Paulinho was playing for one of the big teams in Europe either...

Plus Paulinho cost 17m, fernadinho 30m, and fernandinho is 28 years old. That's a huge free for a player that age who isnt a house hold name like yaya toure was

Yes because playing for Brazil isnt frowned upon but playing for Shaktar in Ukraine is. Care to explain why Willian was ignored who is better than any attack mid in the Brazil squad that played in the confed

Besides these two are different players. I liken Paulinho more to Vidal. Fernandinho more to De Rossi.

 

[Davs 19]

Whilst it looks like he is on paper I think Scolari has been really pushing to use plenty of players from the Brazilian league as a way of creating a real identity and pride in the team from the fans.

As has been said Jo is there and has played and he hasn't even done that well in Brazil but hes well known and playing in the Brazilian League.

Personally I think Fernandinho is the better player, a lot more proven anyway.

Of course you will say that

there is a reason why Fernadinho isnt in the national team and Paulinho is. It's not like Paulinho was playing for one of the big teams in Europe either...

Plus Paulinho cost 17m, fernadinho 30m, and fernandinho is 28 years old. That's a huge free for a player that age who isnt a house hold name like yaya toure was

Yes because playing for Brazil isnt frowned upon but playing for Shaktar in Ukraine is. Care to explain why Willian was ignored who is better than any attack mid in the Brazil squad that played in the confed

Besides these two are different players. I liken Paulinho more to Vidal. Fernandinho more to De Rossi.

Bang on Nip. Brazil rarely pick players playing in Eastern Europe.

I thought everyone new that :) Hence Fernans desire to come to England.

 

[BellLeeSumm]

Just going back to the Bale thing for a minute. If Madrid sign
him then Isco has made one fucking bad decision joining them.
He would then find himself behind Ronaldo and Bale.

 

[waspish]

Just going back to the Bale thing for a minute. If Madrid sign
him then Isco has made one fucking bad decision joining them.
He would then find himself behind Ronaldo and Bale.

Yeah I know but his dad will be happy

€£€£€

 

[decmancity]

Whilst it looks like he is on paper I think Scolari has been really pushing to use plenty of players from the Brazilian league as a way of creating a real identity and pride in the team from the fans.

As has been said Jo is there and has played and he hasn't even done that well in Brazil but hes well known and playing in the Brazilian League.

Personally I think Fernandinho is the better player, a lot more proven anyway.

Of course you will say that

there is a reason why Fernadinho isnt in the national team and Paulinho is. It's not like Paulinho was playing for one of the big teams in Europe either...

Plus Paulinho cost 17m, fernadinho 30m, and fernandinho is 28 years old. That's a huge free for a player that age who isnt a house hold name like yaya toure was

Yeh the reason he is in the team is because he is playing in Brazil, Jo is in the team because he is playing in Brazil, Fred is in the team because he plays in Brazil.

I think Scolari has even said he wants his team to have a lot of brazil based players in his team because he can watch them every week.

The likes of Willian, Fernandinho etc haven't had a look in because they play for Shaktar. Both of them on paper should be in the squad.

It is irrelevant about cost really.
You could argue spending 17m on someone that has never played outside of Brazil as more of a risk than someone who has played competitively in the CL for a number of years.

 

[babua_blue]

After his performances in Confiderations cup , Paulinho is definetly a steal in 17 mil ! Honestly speaking , it will be foolishness to say Fernandinho is a better player than Paulinho for blah blah blah reasons . So i will rather convince myself by saying that they are both diiff type of players and should not be compared :| .
As Pellegrini personally approved Fernandinho for 30 mil to fit in his famous attacking formation jigsaw , I am just happy that Pellegrini got the player he wanted and eagar to see how he uses Dinho..

 

[NipHolmes]

After his performances in Confiderations cup , Paulinho is definetly a steal in 17 mil ! Honestly speaking , it will be foolishness to say Fernandinho is a better player than Paulinho for blah blah blah reasons . So i will rather convince myself by saying that they are both diiff type of players and should not be compared :| .
As Pellegrini personally approved Fernandinho for 30 mil to fit in his famous attacking formation jigsaw , I am just happy that Pellegrini got the player he wanted and eagar to see how he uses Dinho..

It's about what we need.

If Rodwell wasn't here then Paulinho would be paramount. Obviously Paulinho better but they are much of a muchness box to box player.

We need a mobile CDM who can break up play but importantly also make play. Fernandinho will impress, trust me. I don't think blues know what we have here. They will soon and the tide will change. Bookmark this.

 

[The_Mo]

Just going back to the Bale thing for a minute. If Madrid sign
him then Isco has made one fucking bad decision joining them.
He would then find himself behind Ronaldo and Bale.

Yeah I know but his dad will be happy

€£€£€

I wonder if Madrid might make Ozil available if they sign Bale and replace him with Isco?