Oh you risktaker, you ;)Josh Blue said:It aint gna happen though....
Matt the Giant said:I think so Sam, maybe up to £20mil... tops, for reasons mentioned in this thread.
The minute a Barcelona player becomes superfluous to the club, their sale value sinks drastically. And that player will undoubtedly feel he needs to move on in order to keep his career alive.
I know comparison can be made with YaYa's transfer (was it around £24m?). But he is a vastly more versatile player and was a key-signing for our club, and at that point we paid pretty much whatever the selling club asked for. I suspect Pedro would come cheaper... a lot cheaper.
Still not sure he has the physique for the PL though.
Sam_B said:Apologies matt, your right, if a player does leave it usually (not always though) seems to be at a significantly lower fee than they paid-
Deco- porto to barca £18.5 mil - barca to chelsea £8.8 mil
Ronaldinho- PSG to barca £28.4 mil - barca to milan £22 mil
Are two that spring to mind.
Being a winger he doesnt need to have the strength of an ox or be built like a wall, what he lacks in physicality he more than makes up with pace and skill, ie nani, di maria, silva, mata, to name a few, it is a bonus if they have but not a necessity, also remember he can finish better than most wingers aswel.
Matt the Giant said:No need to apologize mate!
Yet another example ought to be Ibrahimovich: bought him for a fortune and sold him for peanuts. I always suspected there was something fishy with that deal.
But anyway; you raise a valid point there, - about how Pedro's less-than-awesome physique would not necessarily mean he's not cut out for the PL. And yes he's a pretty lethal finisher.
Watching how well Cuenca (is that his name?) played for Barca last night, I can see how Pedro might be a bit concerned.
Tevez City said:LoveCity said:Pedro is going to struggle to get back in Barca's team because Tello and Cuenca both play out wide and both look outstanding in their breakthrough year. Tello in particular looks amazing, 7 goals in his first 12 games at the top level and a few assists. Add in Sanchez plus Villa (who often plays on the left) and Afellay about to return and it isn't looking great for Pedro unless he can work his way back into form... and that requires getting game time first. Pedro was an unused sub tonight and Tello was brought on instead of him. Could definitely see Barca cashing in on Pedro who would walk into almost any other team in the world and if he does find his form again would be a great signing for anyone really.
I don't think so.
Playing with Barcelona, makes every player looks better.
DavidWhitesBoots said:Tevez City said:LoveCity said:Pedro is going to struggle to get back in Barca's team because Tello and Cuenca both play out wide and both look outstanding in their breakthrough year. Tello in particular looks amazing, 7 goals in his first 12 games at the top level and a few assists. Add in Sanchez plus Villa (who often plays on the left) and Afellay about to return and it isn't looking great for Pedro unless he can work his way back into form... and that requires getting game time first. Pedro was an unused sub tonight and Tello was brought on instead of him. Could definitely see Barca cashing in on Pedro who would walk into almost any other team in the world and if he does find his form again would be a great signing for anyone really.
I don't think so.
Playing with Barcelona, makes every player looks better.
Agree with this, Barcelona play a system which allows they to interchange players easily, taught right through the club, like utd do thus has allowed them to dupe Sunderland and Everton out of many millions in transfers. A player having played one system for many years will look better in that system. No doubts Barcelona have some of the best players in the game but the system they play helps, they all know their jobs inside out. Not convinced Pedro would all that great without that system and those players around him.
Matt the Giant said:I wouldn't mind bringing in Pedro... but never at those figures. Around £15mil would be more reasonable.
But why on earth would he want to leave Barca? He's had a, by his standards, very poor year due to injuries, but I'm certain once he's back in shape he'll be one of the first names on the team sheet.
VOOMER said:Matt the Giant said:I wouldn't mind bringing in Pedro... but never at those figures. Around £15mil would be more reasonable.
But why on earth would he want to leave Barca? He's had a, by his standards, very poor year due to injuries, but I'm certain once he's back in shape he'll be one of the first names on the team sheet.
Barca need to sell this summer they have a new stadium to build and as has been shown, a need to buy another left back and centre half. They have a number of good forwards Messi, Sanchez, Telljio (I think), Villa when he returns and Silva and cesc who are relevant. Pedro would be the only one they could get say £30 million for and I think he is worth that. Age and proven performances and £30 mill who be the max, Bale would be a good buy, just not as good as buying Pedro, as Pedron comes from bqackground where defence begins in attack, Bale doesn't.
MCFC-Scott said:Sanchez could become available I reckon, considering how much game time Tello and Cuenca are (deservedly) getting.
Hes not Tevez, Hazard or Adebayor.Sam_B said:Tevez City said:Big NO.
Care to explain why?
Kun Aguero said:Hes not Tevez, Hazard or Adebayor.Sam_B said:Tevez City said:Big NO.
Care to explain why?
LoveCity said:Kun Aguero said:Hes not Tevez, Hazard or Adebayor.Sam_B said:Care to explain why?
You forgot Marin and his new love affair, Iturbe (who can't even get a game for Porto yet). :P
Sam_B said:Tevez City said:Big NO.
Care to explain why?
richball_PF55 said:Sometimes I worry about the people who post on here as fans of my club,
Anyone who knows anything about football knows Barcelona won't sell Pedro,
So! You make it sound like Barca has a policy of not selling players who come thru their academy. They don't. There is one that plays at Tothenham, and another that plays in Rome. As for being one of their best players, well isn't that the point being debated here? That he has fallen from that patch, and if that is true, then he may be on the block. This is a simple follow the reasoning.He came through they're academy and is one of there best players.
Even if those rumors are true, they still don't confirm they would need him. He and Keita do not play similar positions, and the acquisition of Sanchez clearly covers the Villa. So now Barcelona has 5 wide players excluding Messi. Tello, Cuenta, The Dutch kid, Sanchez and Pedro. This a position both Messi and Iniesta can also play comfortably in.They need him, especially if the rumors are true that they will be offloading Villa and Keita this summer.
Dax777 said:richball_PF55 said:Sometimes I worry about the people who post on here as fans of my club,
Anyone who knows anything about football knows Barcelona won't sell Pedro,
I don't see the correlation between knowing something about football, and knowing Barcelona will not sell Pedro. This has nothing to do with football and everything to do with Barcelona. And while you may be conversant of what happens with Barca, I think it is okay if other aren't. So your reason for "worry" seems Meh!
So! You make it sound like Barca has a policy of not selling players who come thru their academy. They don't. There is one that plays at Tothenham, and another that plays in Rome. As for being one of their best players, well isn't that the point being debated here? That he has fallen from that patch, and if that is true, then he may be on the block. This is a simple follow the reasoning.He came through they're academy and is one of there best players.
Even if those rumors are true, they still don't confirm they would need him. He and Keita do not play similar positions, and the acquisition of Sanchez clearly covers the Villa. So now Barcelona has 5 wide players excluding Messi. Tello, Cuenta, The Dutch kid, Sanchez and Pedro. This a position both Messi and Iniesta can also play comfortably in.They need him, especially if the rumors are true that they will be offloading Villa and Keita this summer.
So if it is true that Cuenca and Tello have gotten ahead of him in the pecking order, a possibility seeing as Tello has been more productive in half the number of games. Then selling Pedro is quite possible.
No one is saying it is a definite! But it is quite possible.